I shouldn't eat this?

Paul C.
on 8/1/11 11:52 pm - Cumming, GA
Ok I have once again been working through the advice of my NUT and working in the foods she is recommending and the calorie goal she has set. 

Some days 2100-2300 calories is very easy todo with little thought.  I will eat the same things I typically would I will just eat 1 or 2 more meals a day somedays this puts me with as many as 10 meals.  Other days it is a total struggle as my old habits, well my new old habits creep back in and I get totally slack in the eating department and find myself not eating hardly anything.  I tend to keep a large supply of protein supplements on hand and will typically just do shakes and bars on these days with a bit of food thrown in.

Then there are the days where I seem to fully adopt my new athletic lifestyle, and don't really focus on what it is I am eating but rather the nutritional components of what it is I am eating.  I tend to not look at carbs as being bad or good, but rather something to give me the energy I need.  I have no problem at all downing 2 Whole Wheat Waffles with a glob of Peanut Butter and Half a banana for breakfast before heading out to the gym or race (Can we say Carb fest). Then there are the days where I actually look at what it is I am eating and totally get turned off.  So NUT says 30grams fast carbs after a workout.  The other day I do my standard 2 hour workout with both cardio and weights total calories burned in the 1300 area. I get to the ofice and head to the cafe to get breakfast, I had planned English muffin with a scambled egg.  I arrive at the cafe and see the special is a English muffin with egg and cheese, so I am like hey I can just do that it has everything I had planned on getting anyways.  I get back to my desk and eat it to then look at it and say to myself "Uhhhh dude this is like an egg McMuffin and you don't eat McDonalds crap anymore"  so I throw it away because I could not get past the mental block of these are the things that nutritionally I should have been eating at that point but couldn't bring myself to eat.  Needless to say I then went into a semi guilt mode and ate mainly protein the rest of the day.

I tend to live a very active lifestyle now as many know and this has afforded me some freedom in my daily diet, but there are the days that mentally I do not believe it.  I drank the Kool-aid in massive amounts very early on and refused to even look at anything with more than a couple carbs in it.  I feel that this for right or wrong helped me get to where I am both weight wise and mentally, the weight a good thing the mental aspect not so good.

Understandably there are people with RH and real physical reasons to avoid carbs, but for the most part the point of these processes are to become healthy.  Part of becomming healthy is to adopt a healthy lifestyle where nothing is totally bad and everything has it's place in our daily diet.  Carbs aren't good or bad, heck complex carbs are things that healthy and fit people eat. 

When you get to the point where you are starting to work towards a more normal daily diet look at what healthy people eat and how they live, and realise that you too can have this lifestyle with some work.
Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op  (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03      
      First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (
PR 2:24:35)   
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
M M
on 8/2/11 12:06 am
 If it works for you -- work it.

Boys are dumb.

Carry on.

*rants about 1200 calories making weight stick and how she won't run, ever cause sweat is gross*
Paul C.
on 8/2/11 12:09 am - Cumming, GA
Sometimes I think my life was easier when I did 1200 calories, and yes sweat is very gross.

Thanks for being such a great advocate of people doing what works for them.  If I followed every tiny rule to the letter I wouldn't be where I am today.  You are awesome!
Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op  (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03      
      First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (
PR 2:24:35)   
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
M M
on 8/2/11 12:12 am
 

Well, as you've figured out -- quite early -- we're all vastly different.  Some of us are slugs and like to eat.  *raising hand*  Some of us can run marathons.  Some of us promote starvation diets. 

It's all in what works.
Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 8/2/11 12:24 am - OH
Raising hand for also being a slug who likes to eat... and agreeing that boys are dumb (LOL), sweat is gross, and that we all have to find what works for US since we are all different and ultimately WE are the ones responsible for our health, our weight, and our sanity.

Thumbs down to marathons, starvation diets, being a gym rat (just a short-cut term, NOT meant to be pejorative), sleazy lawyers, uncaring doctors, slow drivers in the left lane (get the hell out of my way!), pain, and poverty.

Lora

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

(deactivated member)
on 8/2/11 5:01 am - TX
I am personally an advocate of working out more so I can eat more and maybe have more carbs. I never thought I'd have the surgery and NOT ever eat carbs, sugar, even alcohol again. I knew that I would at some point.

But I understand the mentality. I am afraid of taking in too many carbs even when my calories are in line...and its true I lose more weight, faster, when I do high protein low carb. But I sacrifice the energy for working out when I do that, and I want to continue to build muscle.

I have egg with cheese every morning - egg whites with cheese, ham, and all the veggies - From Subway - and I throw away the english muffin.
cajungirl
on 8/2/11 12:12 am


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(deactivated member)
on 8/2/11 12:07 am - Santa Cruz, CA
"Food is Fuel"

Go gettem! Sounds like you're really on the right track
to me!

Good going!
cajungirl
on 8/2/11 12:09 am
Paul,

My surgeon had a lax stage program when I had surgery in 2005 however he had a very stringent list of foods he allowed for the first 6 months and then until goal.  I followed that 99% of the time, the other 1% I did what I felt I needed to meet my protein goals.  (protein shakes and cheese  were the 1%).

I drank the kool-aid as a new post-op too.  I DO believe it taught me a lot about eating and reaching goal.  Saying this, today I pretty much eat what I want, when I want and listen to the signals my body gives me on quantity (still have very good restriction) AND I focus on meeting my protein goals; the rest just falls into place.

The guilt doe**** occasionally, yanno the fear of OMG how did I do that, I shouldn't be able to eat that much or that type of food.  When I sit down and write what I've had that day or mentally calculate what I had in the grand scheme of things I did fine.

I do eat fast foods periodically running around with my boys for activities.  For instance, my youngest played tournament baseball this summer and we were constantly on the road.  I'd bring healthy snacks with me and eat those MOSTLY but we might have stopped with the team to eat and I'd grab a small McDonald's cheeseburger and eat the meat and cheese and possibly a couple bites of the bun and 2-3 french fries.  I can stop myself when I feel satisfied (99%) of the time. 

Maybe I should start a new thread on this question but I'll ask here.  Do you find certain times of the day are triggers for grazing?  I really do push myself to eat in the morning and during the day and at night I find myself grazing and/or not "satisfied".  No I'm not hungry I recognize it as a trigger but continue to struggle with the mental aspect of wanting to eat :(.  I've even pushed back the time I eat dinner so I don't graze as much.

Proximal RNY Lap - 02/21/05

 9 years committed ~  100% EWL and Maintaining

www.dazzlinglashesandbeyond.com

 

M M
on 8/2/11 12:20 am
 And, FWIW, there are people out here that do eat normally -- at normal caloric levels post op -- and who aren't obese again.  

My soon to be ex and I both eat at near-normal calorie levels -- at 7.5 years post surgery.  For me -- that's a 1200-2000 calorie range.  For him -- 1600- 2200.  
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