1 week post op and can eat and drink everything

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 3/7/12 4:25 pm - OH
 Me, too!  I thought of her as well when I was replying to this post.

Lora

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

Kim S.
on 3/8/12 12:32 am - Helena, AL
Exactly Kim.

I called BS on this one pretty early on.
             
     
Lady Lithia
on 3/7/12 11:50 am
On March 7, 2012 at 6:40 PM Pacific Time, alieden wrote:
 1) I have no NUT. It was not part of my "plan" to have one. I do have a friend who is a NUT but has zero experience with RNY, trying to help me. 
2) I received NO pre-surgery diet plan, post surgery diet plan, nor any talk from my surgeon, who knew I smoked of quitting. I wanted to quit on my own. I've been unable to do do. And this is the first I've heard if it being mandoratory. Nothing from my surgeon.
3) part of my job entails eating dinner 3x per week at this very expensive Italian restaurant that gives us next to nothing prices. We take potential clients to these dinners. I can NOT order nothing! I order 3 courses with the intention of a bite of each so no one notices. After a glass of wine, "accidents" like cOnsuming too much can happen. ONCE!
4) my husband is an MD. I work in medicine, while neither of us are experienced with gastric bypass we are incredibly connected with the medical community and I can assure you has the BEST gastric surgeon there is. 

From your replies I see several things that most of you are relaying:
1) you are narrow minded and bigoted
2) anyone who ports here needs to either be dishonest or be defensive so the reasons for slips are known and the poster doesn't get pounced on. Really? Kinda pathetic if you ask me. Where is your insecurity at they you need to cut down others with only partial information?
3) from those of you mentally healthy enough to give mature responses, I do need to see my surgeon tomorrow. It sounds like there may be a problem that has nothing to do with me. I mean, this is day 8 for me. If it was that easy to "break" then it would not be highly recommended.

It is obvious there is no malabsorption going on with me. But then you would need to be a medical professional to know that. Second, the sta

You have a husband who is a doctor.

You had a life-altering, surgery that is permanent and is designed to change your life forever. If you have a husband who is a doctor, and had life-altering surgery, and did NO research and furthermore had it from a surgeon who provided you with NO guidance at all, then I suppose I am narrow-minded AND bigoted to suggest that your definition of the "best" gastric surgeon is far far FAR below the mark.

If you have a job that "requires" you to eat hefty italian meals three times a week, then there is no way you should have ever had any weight loss surgery.

You didn't specify which responses you considered narrow minded or bgoted. I guess I must assume that mine was one of those. I'm not sure what makes me that way. I speak from a position of understanding of this life-altering surgery, and the complications that come from those who ignore the rules.

I am very honest in my posts. I don't have to be dishonest, and find it strange that you characterize everyone who posts here as a liar or defensive. I mess up, and if I'm in the mood to post here and it's part of teh conversation I join, I share the ways I've messed up and the ways I've maintained the plan presented to me before the surgeon approached me with his surgical tools. It's pathetic to believe that everyone here is either lying or defensive when they speak about their experience. What is pathetic is painting everyone *****sponded to your post with a broad brush of bigoted and narrow-minded. If you didn't mean to paint every person as this sort of person, then it's somewhat pathetic that you paint everyone with this brush without differentiating between those who were "helpful" and those who weren't.

I didn't try to cut you down. I didn't try to demean you. I didn't do anything other than suggest that: 

A) If you have major surgery without ANY research, especially a surgery that is nominally "elective", then there has been a failure on your part to understand YOUR obligation to learn about the intricacies of your surgery prior to having it.
B) Having had this surgery (and either learned about the rules and broken them, or more alarming not learning the rules and continuing with your life as if you haven't had major surgery) you have gone on to do numerous things that could, in an extreme case KILL YOU. I am not bigoted. I am not narrow minded. It is a TRUTH. My surgeon's first death he experienced was from a person who had the surgery and on the way home from the hospital he bought a couple of big macs and ate them, busted his staple line and died. It can KILL YOU to do what you did. This is not bigotry. This is not Narrow Mindedness. This is FACT.
C) It does NOT sound like your surgery is broken. It sounds like you are perfectly normal as far as your surgery is concerned. But you are NOT NORMAL in what you are DOING. There are RULES for a REASON. You can't FEEL your pouch. The person who killed himself with Big Macs didn't feel pain when he ruptured his staple line and leaked big mac throughout his peritoneal cavity.... but he felt it when it became a fatal problem... before he died. It is NORMAL to be able to drink liquids normally postop. Perhaps half or more can't drink very fast, but a good number can, and so it is not a BROKEN surgery that allows you to drink as much as you want. It is your choice, and you're a lucky duck you can drink liquids without issue. I was that way too, and I considered it a benefit, as it allowed me to focus on my liquids more than some people could early out.

FEW people break the rules as extraordinarily as you have done. in the first few weeks after surgery. THAT is why there ARE rules... so that during the early tricky recuperation period, when your pouch can't give you signals taht you're stuffing it to teh gills and it's in excruciating pain, you won't be tempted to do something that asinine. The RULES keep people from doing the stuff you did so easily. I daresay that I could have done all that you did. My pouch never gave me any qualms from the first day. But I knew that the rules were essential to success and moreover they were adn are essential to the integrity of your pouch. The STOMA.... once stretched... doesn't get better. I haven't heard of any GOOD permanent fixes for a ruined Stoma.... and frankly, as tender and delicate as yours is, with you smoking and drinking alcohol and eating food quantities that I might eat as a four-years out person... I would not be at all surprised if you've permanently destroyed your STOMA and ruined your surgery..

Malabsorption has nothing to do with what food and drink you shove down your gullet. It has to do with how the food is absorbed in the small intestine. If you've been bypassed, you HAVE malabsorption. You ALSO might have a destroyed STOMA and good luck with that.

NOw I recognize that my earlier post might have been one you appreciated... .or you might think I'm an evil bully getting my kicks off attacking a newbie. I certainly don't know. What I do know is that I'm an educator, and I spoke to your original post with what I considered the most ESSENTIAL information..... STOP PUTTING ANYTHING IN YOUR MOUTH OTHER THAN LIQUIDS..... Get to see your surgeon, and get to see a mental health specialist ASAP because if you are for real, you are not going down a road that will lead to success.

May you have success, and may your pouch and moreover your STOMA not be destroyed by your irresponsible actions.

 

~Lady Lithia~ 200 lbs lost! 
March 9, 2011 - Coccygectomy!
I chased my dreams, and my dreams, they caught me!
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exohexoh
on 3/7/12 12:24 pm - West Chester, PA
 mind = blown, about the big mac thing. i didn't even want to look at food on my way home, or for a few days even. i just remember sitting in the fetal position saying "ow ow ow" everytime the car bumped a little.

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alieden
on 3/7/12 10:17 pm - Boca Raton, FL
RNY on 02/28/12
Hattie T.
on 3/8/12 1:27 am, edited 3/8/12 1:30 am - Denver, CO

I am baffled. If you are serious, then you should really get your advice from professionals -- and soon because you are going to get very sick.   I am angry that you are behaving in such a way that you could end up becoming one of those negative, scary, stories that make people afraid of RNY.   

Hattie

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Kim S.
on 3/8/12 12:33 am - Helena, AL
BRAVO!  Glad to see you back on the boards, I missed you!

Kim
             
     
Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 3/7/12 12:21 pm - OH
 I truly don't mean this to be offensive, but did you write this after one of those glasses of wine?  I read your previous recent posts, and they are all very well written, coherent, free of excessive typos.  This response, however, is different... So I am concerned that there is something that is affecting your functioning.

Lora

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

happy_baker
on 3/7/12 12:42 pm
RNY on 02/15/12
 I thought the same thing. 
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alieden
on 3/7/12 10:20 pm - Boca Raton, FL
RNY on 02/28/12
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