Food and Exercise

LJ1972
on 6/12/12 6:52 am - FL
 So I totally washed out on the cardio portion of my workout with the trainer today. AGAIN.

The workout was around 1, around noon I had a couple ounces of rotisserie chicken, some green beans (about 1/4c or more) and a tablespoon of stuffing. I normally pass on the stuffing but decided that was a simple carb.  Was I wrong?

 Or is it mental? How do I know the difference?  When my legs wear out I can push them further and know when enough is enough. But when I am short of breath how far do I push? I seem to have a 2 minute wall with my legs and once I push through I can push for a while.
   It seems to be about 2 minutes as well for my breathing to get labored, but I haven't been able to overcome that wall.  How far do I push?  Will different carbs make a difference?  Trainer suggested peanut butter on white bread toast  - to my horror!  :)


  I am so frustrated and really kind of stranded in the "I suck" mud of self pity.

                 COURAGE TO START, STRENGTH TO ENDURE, RESOLVE TO FINISH 
                              HW 353 SW 317 Original GW 180  Current Wt  170 
                               First 5k 59:18; 5k PR 32:06;  1st 10k 1:20:27; PR 1:08:36
                                                    1st Half Marathon 2:48

                                        Pensacola Double Bridge Run 15k- 1:47:34
                                                  Three Sprint Triathlons

Cleopatra_Nik
on 6/12/12 6:58 am - Baltimore, MD
 Yeah...a tablespoon of stuffing probably isn't great fuel for a workout.

I find fruit works well, specifically bananas. I eat a banana and some peanut butter (sigh...how I miss it!) and I am good to go. My first time I ran the whole 5k on the treadmill was fueled by half a banana with PB.

Your trainer's suggestion is good too. Think of carbs before a workout like alcohol in a recipe. It burns off!

Or...better yet, like an investment. You invest 200 calories in to burn 600 calories in a workout. In the end you still burned 400 from eating that 200. Make sense?

I actually do think of it like that. I take whatever is my least favorite food choice of the day (most caloric) and I push myself to burn that much. It's symbolic to be sure, but it helps me push harder.

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

LJ1972
on 6/12/12 7:27 am - FL
How long before working out do you eat?  I try to time it so I have my hour before drinking because I am drinking water the entire workout, generally at least 24oz .
Cleopatra_Nik
on 6/12/12 7:28 am - Baltimore, MD
 About 45 minutes to an hour. If I space it any sooner it hasn't "kicked in" yet. If you pay really good attention you can actually feel your body run out of immediate energy stores but you keep pushing and then you get that second wind from whatever you ate. I think it's pretty neat.

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

LJ1972
on 6/12/12 10:53 am - FL
 Ok.  I am going to try a banana again on Thursday before spin class - when I can leave if I need to (hate to run away from the trainer in individual session lol ).  With a protein shake ok, or should I do PB? or just trial and error?
hedrider
on 6/12/12 7:30 am - Midlothian, TX
To fuel a good workout you need to GIVE your body the fuel.  Quick burning carbs.  Fruit.  Pretzels.  PB crackers.  I like to eat pb crackers or an apple pre-workout and follow it with a protein drink post.

I've found that most of my limitiations with working out in the past were self induced and 100% mental.

My favorite yoga instructor likes to talk about the battle of ego versus will when it comes do doing hard things.  Ego is what tells you to stop, you can't do it, you need to bow out.  Will is what makes you keep doing it when you don't want to anymore.  Ego is what comes out when you are doing a particularly difficult arm balance, and fail - as we all do in the beginning - and blame it on your wrists hurting.  Will is what happens when you chalk it up to inexperience and hop up to try it again.

So, while I'm running I'm frequently battling my ego telling me I'm too tired, I'm too out of breath, my knees hurt, I need to stop... and it's pure will that makes me do that extra mile just for the hell of it.

I've found it takes 10 minutes of exercise to break through that "this sucks" wall into the "yeah I'm gonna live zone".  BUT if you are honestly fighting for breath and not just winded then dial down the intensity a little bit until you can catch it again.  Just don't stop, because then ego wins and you set yourself up with a good excuse for letting yourself off easier again next time.  Once ego starts winnign it becomes easier and easier to let it talk you out of doing something...

Yeah, it makes much more sense when I hear him say it in his all emcompassing zen like way through my sweat induced yoga coma... I swear!
Heather
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Cleopatra_Nik
on 6/12/12 7:31 am - Baltimore, MD
 I find breaking things down into small segments helps. When I get to mile 2 of my run I start promising myself near about every minute that if I just make it through THAT minute, I can stop afterward if I want. Somehow it helps. It's mental but it helps.

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

hedrider
on 6/12/12 7:50 am - Midlothian, TX
 Oh, I do that too!

But mine's like "Okay, 15 more seconds.  Okay, now 15 more seconds.  Okay.  Now 15 more seconds."  Ego versus will.  Seriously.
Heather
Since 2008 my team has raised over $42,000 to fight breast cancer.

   
LJ1972
on 6/12/12 10:58 am - FL
That is how I do on my 5k... I'll pick a sign or tree and say I am going to either run 2 minutes or to the landmark - whichever comes last.   Knowing there is a chance to take a break if I HAVE to helps.  Today, I don't know if I had to, or just thought I had to stop. I don't know how to tell the difference and am afraid of pushing it with shortness of breath (a phobia of mine).  Guess I can take a xanax with my banana?   LOL
LJ1972
on 6/12/12 10:55 am - FL
Made sense to me!!  I think that is what happened today - ego won. I WAS tired, and I WAS short of breath... but I need to do the lower intensity instead of stopping.  It infuriated me that I stopped, and then being all pissed and stressed just made it worse.
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