4 years post op anniversary

sportera
on 10/13/14 5:11 am - Mandeville, LA
On October 13, 2014 at 11:30 AM Pacific Time, Chilipepper wrote:

Yes you are correct. You are personally causing this lifestyle. Did you get counciling prior to surgery?  If you choose to **** your pants or not chew your food properly or run the risk of more ulcers because of your choices, if that is your choice, congratulations you have reached your goal!  

Personally, I wouldn't be that understanding of a spouse 4 yrs post op.  

I do gave a question.  Do you still gave your gallbladder?

Gallbladder removed years before RNY surgery and "****ting in my pants is not a habitual or recurring thing and seldom happens. 

And finally I posted what I did in an effort to help those who may have followed in my footsteps to be wary of the pitfalls that may follow.

I rest my case and thank all very much for your one sided feedback. 

        
Oxford Comma Hag
on 10/13/14 5:56 am

For posterity: "still losing weight eating and drinking what I choose."  Yet you are having lots of unpleasant side effects.

Most of us have realized that we cannot eat and drink what we chose, if those choices are simple carbs and sugary drinks, for long term success. I'd rather skip the foods that are going to derail me.

I fight badgers with spoons.

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GeekMonster, Insolent Hag
on 10/13/14 5:42 am - CA
VSG on 12/19/13

Glad that you can celebrate this.  I think I would view it a different way if I were four years post surgery and down only 90 pounds.  But everyone has their own agenda and goals to reach.

Since I didn't have the RNY, I'm wondering if defecating in your underwear is a common occurrence for others at four years out.  I have not had this issue, so I don't know if it's surgery specific or a result of your decision to eat foods that cause you to "pay a price" and drink alcohol often.

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Height:  5'-7"  HW: 449  SW: 392  GW: 179  CW: 220

rocky513
on 10/13/14 8:13 am - WI

I'm four years out in November and have NEVER **** myself!  I also don't have a great deal of gas.  I watch my carbs VERY closely.  No problems here! 

HW 270 SW 236 GW 160 CW 145 (15 pounds below goal!)

VBG Aug. 7, 1986, Revised to RNY Nov. 18, 2010

saterry
on 10/13/14 6:07 am - IN
Revision on 10/03/13

Sounds like you deserve your own **** storm....glad you are embracing the results of your careless actions.

Hope you can embrace the long term health problems that may come your way as a results of your life style.

We all reap the rewards of our actions.....you get to pick your course for the future.

Be careful, your road may be very bumpy !

SRVG 1997 SW 301   Revision to RNY 10/3/13 SW 247 GW 130  Ht 5'8

    

Kate -True Brit
on 10/13/14 6:09 am - UK

Glad it has worked out as you wanted.  90lbs in 4 years and bowel problems wouldn't suit me but if it suits you (and the people you live and work with) that's fne -  different things for different people! 

Highest 290, Banded - 248   Lowest 139 (too thin!). Comfort zone 155-165.

Happily banded since May 2006.  Regain of 28lbs 2013-14.  ALL GONE!

But some has returned! Up to 175, argh! Off we go again,

   

Amy R.
on 10/13/14 6:18 am
On October 13, 2014 at 6:06 AM Pacific Time, sportera wrote:

Celebrating my 4th year post op and I can tell you it has been a roller coaster ride!  

Good news is I've lost 90 lbs without really trying to control my diet and being a type 2 diabetic my glucose level is still under control without taking any diabetes control meds since walking out of hospital 4 years ago. 

Bad news is:

1.  Still having problems feeling sick when I eat certain foods such as eggs, gravies, rice dishes, and meat, fish,& poultry. Generally if it is something I loved to eat pre-surgery, I pay a price to eat it now.  

2.  Still have problems with getting meat or poultry "stuck" once in awhile and usually find drinking hot tea helps although generally have to force myself to gag to clear the obstruction. I love BBQ but it hates me.  

3.  I like to have some wine daily along with a little beer or hard liquor once in awhile and generally live with very loose stool and emergency running to the bathroom now and then.  This can and does force me to plan trips to include public rest room stops along the way. 

4.  Some member of this forum used to close every one of his posts with "NEVER TRUST A FART!".  After 4 years I'm pretty good at detecting a fart vs a stool dump BUT...once in awhile SURPRISE!  Have had to toss my drawers in a public rest room trash can on a few occasions. 

5.  After 4 years I continue to fart like crazy 24/7. Good thing I have a very understanding spouse. Never had an excessive "gas" issue pre op. 

6.  I developed ulscers in my esophagus and new stomach last year and now take Protonix daily to prevent recurrence. 

Bottom line is I continue to slowly lose weight and keep diabetes under controlwithou****ching my diet but it comes at the cost of what I've listed above. My choice is to live with the above rather than the alternative of being obese to the point of having a heart attack or other problems caused by diabetes. I know this was long but I figured I'd share my story with those new to the procedure.  And remember...."NEVER TRUST A FART!".

And to be totally honest, I probably cause most of my pain by drinking too much wine and can generally eat anything I want IF I EAT IT SLOOOWLY!

 

Quoted for posterity, in case someone suddenly decides to delete or deactivate....

To the OP.  If you're happy with your life, more power to you.  You  mention at least twice that you don'****ch your diet, which is obviously a personal choice.  And if you're happy with your weight loss it's really none one else's business. I do want to give you at a heads up though:  many of us post ops experience sudden bursts of weight gain right around the four or five year mark, even if we have not increased their caloric intake.  It has to do with your intestines becoming more effecient in absorbing the calories that you eat.  For some of us it happens sooner, like right after the honeymoon period ends.  Others get an extra year or two. 

I'm almost six years out and it happened to me at just around four and a half years post op. I just got done re-losing a 40 some odd pound weight gain.  It was not fun.  Had I been more careful with my eating in the first place I doubt I'd have had to go through that particular experience.

We all seem to have at least one or two things that we just don't tolerate well postop.  I  too have problems with rice.  And white bread.  Fortunately for me, those aren't very good for me anyway so not eating them isn't a great loss. 

As for the bathroom and gas issues.  I have noticed that when I eat simple carbs, and especially refined sugar, I too have my moments.  Since I absolutely HATE those situations, I use the threat of having those episodes to help me minimize my consumption of those foods. 

I'm not even going to comment on the daily alcohol consumption.

Anywho.  Thanks for sharing what your life looks like at four years out.  It will be interesting as people continue to comment on your thread and compare their experiences with your own.

GeekMonster, Insolent Hag
on 10/13/14 6:31 am - CA
VSG on 12/19/13

One last question:  Do you ever have your labs checked, besides glucose levels?  Just curious what your vitamin levels look like at the four year mark.

"Oderint Dum Metuant"    Discover the joys of the Five Day Meat Test!

Height:  5'-7"  HW: 449  SW: 392  GW: 179  CW: 220

teacherford
on 10/13/14 6:42 am
RNY on 06/09/14

I think you came on here, hoping people would say, Way To Go!! When you didn't hear that, and heard probably what your subconcious is telling you, you think we are trying to be mean.

I am going to be realistic for you. I am 18 weeks post op and 90 lbs down. The guy I had surgery with he was down 110 lbs at 3 months (he had VSG). So 90 lbs down is not good for 4 years out. While it is awesome that you are down 90 lbs, I am sure that it could be a lot better. Also the diabetes will come back, I repeat WILL come back if you continue to eat sugar, greasy, fatty foods. If you are having constant farting and bathroom issues then the foods you are eating are not good for you. You shouldn't be having those issues. Also, Wine daily, and then add in other liquors is not good for you as well. As and RNY patient you absorb the alcohol directly into your blood stream, so you get drunker quicker. This can do unforseen damage to your liver that won't be seen until you have already done permanent damage to it. If you can't go a day without drinking or even thinking about when your next drink is, then you have addiction issues. Just like you probably have food addiction issues.

Does that mean that I don't eat something that I shouldn't? Of course not, we are all human and make mistakes, but to be truly successful with this tool, you have to take responsibility for your own actions. So saying you can eat whatever you want and still lose weight, you aren't taking responsibility for your actions now, or the choices you made to get yourself to the point that you had surgery in the first place. I avoid all those foods for the very reason that I don't want to be in the bathroom, have awful uncontrollable gas, or feel sick all the time. They are also the food choices that got me to the point I was at to have surgery on top of all my other health issues that one my age shouldn't have.

I wish you good health, and do hope that this is a wake up call to do some self reflection and make some changes in your life. If not, to each their own.

    

HW: 322.8 SW: 305.3 RNY 6/9/14. Preop Loss: -17.5 M1: -22.4 W5: -4.5  W6: -1.6 W7: -4.7 W8: -3.3 M2: -14.1 W9: -2.8 W10: -3.7 W11: -2.9 W12: -3.1 M3: -12.5 W13: -6.1 W14: -3.2 W15: -3 W16: -2.5 M4:-14.8 W17: -4.2 W18:-4.5 W19:-3.6 W20: -0 M5: -12.3 W21:-.5 W22: -4.5 W23:-9 W24: -3.4 M6:-17.4 W25:-2

 

White Dove
on 10/13/14 10:17 pm - Warren, OH

You are not unique in having certain issues and does not chose to have those things.  They are the result of the surgery combined with food and drink choices. 

Many post-ops drink alcohol, eat too many carbs, eat too much fat.  Many live with gas, occasional sharting, and chronic loose stools and/or constipation.  Our systems are altered by the surgery and some bodies adjust better than others. 

You shared your experience and your truth.  The problems might be better controlled by different eating and drinking, but there is no guarantee.  The altered anatomy will still be there.  I have had problems even when following low carb, low sugar, and low fat.  High protein results in constipation for me.  I take fiber and probiotics to keep as close as possible to normal. 

Losing 90 pounds and not having to take diabetes medicine is a huge victory that you probably would never have accomplished without surgery.  I understand that you are sharing the good and bad results.  You did not chose to have problems, but accept those problems and see the greater good in weight loss and diabetes control.

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