Adding carbs helped jump start loss?

Here's an idea.... Why don't you simply follow the plan your surgeon gave you?  I'm sure your surgeon has years of experience on WLS and what works.  Testing the waters to see if you dump is irresponsible and I'm sure your surgeon would disapprove.  You trusted that surgeon to open you up and re-arrange your guts... but not to give you a food plan that will work?   

You seem to think that you know more than anyone else.  You are not a "special snowflake".  Everyone loses weight the same way.  Calories in vs. calories out.  It's not that complicated.  We all lose weight in a stair-step fashion, lose a few pounds, stay the same weight for a few days, then lose a few more pounds.  Stalls happen.  Adding carbs is not going to make you lose any faster.  Adding carbs did not break your stall.  You are only three weeks out and seem to think that you have lived the WLS life enough that you can experiment and pave your own way.  That's DANGEROUS.  There are thousands like you that have gained every pound back. We don't want you to be another statistic.

You are over-thinking this.  Obese people are masters at justifying and rationalizing bad behavior.  Your post comes across as just that.  You are throwing so many red flags in this post that people reacted.  It's sad that you don't even see it.  It doesn't matter that it was only 30 calories or half a fun sized candy bar.  The fact is... you are not following the plan given to you.  If you are choosing this behavior at three weeks, then in six weeks will you be adding a whole fun sized candy bar if you are stalled?  

This is the internet.  Grow a thicker skin, take the advice that you can, and move on.  

THIS.

it isn't the amount of carbs, it is the fact that you chose the candy bar instead if the yogurt, that you did it at only 3 weeks out, and that you are attempting to rationalize the usefulness of candy bars.

I am NOT the food police.  I am coming up on 8 years out and I eat a small, less than 100 calorie (usually sweet) snack almost every day (except during times like now when I am trying to get a few pounds of regain off). It helps keep me from feeling like I am on a perpetual diet.  The things is, though, that I didn't start that until I had stopped losing weight.  I work with WLS patients and the vart majority of them who throw up the types of red flags that your post raised did end up regaining weight or never losing it in the first place.

I know you don't see it as a big deal, but trust the voices of experience who have told you that it IS. If you really think that adding some carbs will end a (very short!) stall, have some extra yogurt or cheese or some easy to digest veggies.  (Do you seriously not see the irony of saying that your plan doesn't permit veggies yet but yet it is ok to have the candy??)  What are you going to do when you hit a true stall and the scale doesn't move for 8 weeks? 

Lora

I am not rationalizing the use of the candy. I have said over and over again throughout this post that I made a mistake, but wanted to learn from it. I finally saw the scale move, and looked at what I did the previous day. I got re-motivated, did everything correctly, and the scale didn't move. I added carbs with protein shakes to see if more carbs helped, and the scale moved again. I didn't add sugar or candy or bread, potatoes, crackers or any of that crap. This all went down after a week and a half of no movement at all that started on day 8, including twice that the scale went up following all the rules exactly. Was the choice I made correct, no, but I did it and I tried to learn from it. It was not OK to have the candy, but how stupid would I be if I didn't learn from the mistake???

I will have to disagree with the Calories in vs Calories out.  For some people yes this can be true but a blanket statement like this is not accurate.  I burn on avg 5500 calories a week in exercise and my RMR is around 2000 a day after taking out exercise I burn an estimated 13251 calories  I take in around 11900 for the week add in my exercise of roughly 6000 calories for the week sets me at 19251 Burned. For a weekly debt of 7351 calories or 2 pounds.  I can say there are months that I will loose 2 pounds but on avg I do not lose 2 pounds a week.

My point is that everyone's body utilizes fuel differently and is accustomed to burning different sources of fuel. 

 

Do I agree that the OP is making dangerous decisions and justifying them, yes by any definition of danger they are.  Following the plan is always the way to go. But perpetuating the myth Calories In v Calories out is dangerous as well.

No one, at all, thinks what you did to your newly created stoma is funny. What we are is incredulous that you would do this to yourself. You are setting yourself up for a quick case of reactive hypoglycemia and worse. It's not about being high and mighty..... listen to the vets like Grim, Audrey, Chilipepper, Nikke, Mary Gee whiz, Geek Monster and others. I am considered a newbie in comparison to some, but 11 months out I KNOW for a FACT that having carbs without protein is a dangerous slippery slope. You really need to get this in check. Candy is pure sugar and only carbs, you are not feeding your body. Come ON! You "confessed" and people are trying to HELP you. Please listen before you decide the surgery just didn't work for you.

You might not realize how much time the successful vets take to actually respond to and answer questions we newbies have! but they do , they do it out of caring and experience. NOT MAKING FUN OF ANYONe. 

Get back on track before your train is derailed completely. we care!

I had the carbs after protein, it wasn't on an empty stomach. Having one bite of something does not mean I need to get something in check. I have shown appreciation for those that actually read what I wrote and understood that it was a carb issue. I had been averaging 10-12 grams of carbs a day, and through a mistake, I ended up eating 30 and noticed my stall broke. Went back to under 20, no change, went back up to 30, more weight loss. 30 grams of carbs is not carb loading, or pigging out on sugar! The additional carbs one time came from sweets, and other times came from protein drinks. 

Posting pictures of sweets, belittling, and ridicule are in absolutely no way HELPFUL, and are absolutely making fun of me. I never said the surgery didn't work. I eat less than half a cup of food at a time, and struggle to get in my protein and water, but I do it. I work out every day. Have I had candy, other than the one bite, NO. Do I plan to again, NO. I just need to figure out what works best for MY body. Every doctor is different in what they expect patients to do, and my body is not responding to exactly what my doctor expects, but does respond better to a SLIGHTLY higher amount of carbs. I also don't want to have too many carbs, so I was looking to find out what others are doing. Most actual responses to my question was about 30-50, or more, which is more than I am doing.

Apparently, I made the most horrid of all mistakes. Once. I am trying to learn from it. I don't understand how that turned into several, not all, Vets belittling me, ridiculing me and dooming me to failure. I've lost over 30 pounds. I have had days where I have done everything exactly correctly, and seen a gain on the scale the next morning, twice. I am trying to figure out how my new system works most efficiently, but I sure as hell won't request help from these people again.  

Just because you had carbs and then lost weight doesn't mean there is a correlation.  For example the murder rate increases when the consumption of ice cream in increases.  This doesn't mean that there is a correlation between the murder rate and ice cream consumption.  

Dumb luck, pure and simple. You're playing with fire. No judgment, just a fact. Good luck to you!

I guess since you have a "particular" body you're special. I'm sure your dietician would approve your plan. A few candy bars here, or extra carbs there shouldn't make much of a difference. Worked well in the past, right? 😁

Half a fun size bar is not a few candy bars, it is a bite. It was also because I am curious about dumping. I never said I am special, I just knew in the past that in order to lose, I always had to do things that worked for my body, and I figured out how to do it most appropriately. A typical 1200 calorie program didn't work for me, but 1350-1500 calorie diet did. I was wondering if other people found a specific amount of carbs that worked. Some people have 20, some 100 per day. 10-12 wasn't working, but 30 does. Apparently, not one person who has ever had weight loss surgery has had one bite of carbs or candy or anything that was strictly forbidden after surgery, I am clearly the only one?