Pouch reset

Weighting2Bskinny
on 6/10/18 3:22 pm
I have gained a LOT of weight back since my surgery in 2012. I read and heard about a pouch reset. It’s where you basically have 10 days where you start over with liquids and so on. Is this a stupid idea? I’m thinking about doing it tomorrow. What do y’all think?
    
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Maddymoe2
on 6/10/18 3:51 pm
RNY on 11/22/16

Liquids are not going to satisfy you. You need to focus on dense protein.

Writergurl08
on 6/10/18 3:53 pm
RNY on 02/15/18

So far I have not read anything that leads me to believe it has any merit. Ive seen people have more success by just cutting out the crap and getting back to the basics--protein first, non starchy vegetables, drop carbs, etc.

I'm still a surgical newbie, but that's what I've seen by stalking around here.

HW: 340 SW: 329 Goal: 150

CW: 239

Surgeon: Dr. Kalyana Nandipati (Omaha, NE)

Grim_Traveller
on 6/10/18 5:56 pm
RNY on 08/21/12

It's not possible to reset a stomach. You can detox from a carb addiction, and you can reset your brain though.

There is no benefit to starting over with liquids. Getting back to basics with dense protein, cutting carbs, and weighing and tracking everything you eat will have enormous benefit.

6'3" tall, male. Maintaining a loss of 280 pounds.

Highest weight was 475. Consult weight 04/12 was 411. RNY on 08/21/12 at 359 lbs. Current weight 195.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Liz WantsHealthForAll
on 6/10/18 6:37 pm - Cape Cod, MA
VSG on 03/28/16

In other words, reset by eating 3-4 oz of dense protein (beef, chicken, pork, fish, etc) at each meal. That will re-trigger restriction.

Liz 5'3" HW: 219 (BMI 38.8) SW: 185 GW: 125 CW: 115-118 (BMI 20.4-20.9) - TT and facelift 1/11/2017 - Brow and eyelid PS 12/11/2017.

WL: Pre-op: -34 M1: -17 M2: -12 M3: -11 M4: -7 M5: -7 M6: -5.5 M7: -3.3 M8: -3.3 M9: -2.5 UNDER GOAL since 10/12/2016 - in current range since 12/10/2016. Average maintenance calories 1350

Amy R.
on 6/11/18 9:34 am

If I felt I needed to do something to verify my pouch size or to make sure I can still get restriction, I'd be trying this:

5 Day Meat Test

The 5DPT is a waste of time for many of us. It's much easier and actually more effective to go straight to eating the way you'll need to for the rest of your life. Or for as long as you want to keep the weight off. Protein first, non-carby veggies, a taste of carbs or sugar in rare cir****tances when you are at goal. There are many posts here on regain and how to get it off, but there isn't a magic pill or food. Fortunately we don't need one.

You can do this. You can get back to your desired weight.

Irishnana
on 6/12/18 2:24 pm
RNY on 04/28/15

I had some regain also. Went to see a new nutritionist and she gave me a pouch reset to do for 2 weeks. I lost 8 pounds, it does w9rk.

Grim_Traveller
on 6/12/18 2:45 pm
RNY on 08/21/12

Sure, you can lose weight if you cut calories and carbs. But you didn't reset your pouch. It's exactly the same as it was before the two week diet began.

6'3" tall, male. Maintaining a loss of 280 pounds.

Highest weight was 475. Consult weight 04/12 was 411. RNY on 08/21/12 at 359 lbs. Current weight 195.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Irishnana
on 6/13/18 3:12 am
RNY on 04/28/15

We can agree to disagree as they say. I followed my nutritionists instructions and I felt, after the 2 weeks, that I could feel more restriction when I ate. As we all know everyone is different and has different experiences.

Grim_Traveller
on 6/13/18 3:45 am
RNY on 08/21/12

You are certainly free to disagree, but you would still be incorrect. Your stomach did not shrink, or otherwise reset. It sounds like your brain did, which is great.

Your restriction was always there. You were just eating things that didn't take advantage of it. We all do that. 2 nights ago, I ate half of a giant bucket of movie popcorn. But at dinner the night before, I couldn't eat an entire burger, by itself.

Everyone is not different. The systems that run our bodies are incredibly similar . If we do identical things, we will get the same results. Every single one of us that eats too many slider foods too often will feel little restriction, and gain weight. Everyone that eats dense protein will feel more restriction, eat less overall, and have a chance to lose weight, or maintain.

Now, are we willing to -- our thinking -- is where we can be different. Can we stop eating delicious, delicious sliders? Can we eat dense protein, again, and again? That's the question, not some idea that we can magically shrink our stomach.

6'3" tall, male. Maintaining a loss of 280 pounds.

Highest weight was 475. Consult weight 04/12 was 411. RNY on 08/21/12 at 359 lbs. Current weight 195.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

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