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A chicken breast should be very filling. Are you drinking with your meal?

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Year two is still magic. Year three is when the real honeymoon ends. There are many people who look too skinny during year two. By year four it is very rare to find someone who still looks too skinny.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

My surgeon lectured me about regain with every visit.
At two years out, I was eight pounds under goal and he advised me to try to get to 20 or even 30 pounds under goal. I did not do that.
At 30 months I started regaining and quickly added 12 pounds. It took four months. I panicked, went back to Weigh****chers, talked to my nutritionist, increased exercise, drank more water, ate more protein. I finally realized that I had to cut calories to get it back off.
I weigh every day. It keeps me out of denial. I am currently 1/2 pound over goal and that does not bother me. I don't get too upset unless I go up about five pounds.
You are at a point where it is not to hard to lose more weight. Regain is a reality and I would advise you to have a cushion for loss even if you look too skinny for a while. Eight pounds is very conservative. Twenty might be more realistic.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

I would be using stool softeners, enemas, and suppositories. I take action if I miss a day. I always take Citicel fiber every morning and night.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

If Readers Digest showed up at your door with the prize check, would you say, "Gee, would someone tell me whether to take all this money and be rich now, or should I just try to work harder and save more?"
RNY can give you a chance to live life in a slim, healthy body now. Don't believe that you will only lose 50 pounds. It should be pretty easy to lose 80 or 90 and have a little cushion for long term maintenance. Diet and exercise are short term solutions.
You have been offered the best opportunity available to get slim and healthy. You can have the body, health, and life that most people only dream about. Grab the opportunity, follow the rules, and be grateful for this surgery. Probably about 3% of people would benefit from the surgery actually get it. You are one of the lucky ones.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

I started meat at four months out. At first I could only eat beef filet, cooked rare and cut into very tiny pieces. By six months I could usually handle chicken or pork. After a year I could eat hamburger. At two months I was not able to handle meat.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

You can't gauge how full you are because the nerves that do that have been cut. A half cup of potatoes is a huge amount of food to be putting into a week old pouch. It took me about six months to work up to a half cup of food at a time.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

To date, only Roux-en-Y gastric bypass, a common surgical procedure for extreme obesity, has been shown to reverse obesity-induced changes in appetite hormones and the brain’s response to food. This, say the authors, might explain why bariatric surgery is the only treatment showing long-term effectiveness in individuals with sustained obesity.
This is a very interesting article. Thanks for posting. I agree that obesity is never cured even with RNY, but just in remission.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Yesterday I saw someone on here who ate half of a fun-size Three Musketeer bar to test whether she dumped.
Dumping is pretty much an non-issue for most of us with RNY, especially as time goes on. I have dumped a few times in seven years. Each time it was from mindlessly eating a lot candy on an empty stomach.
I am not talking about a few pieces, I am talking about a bagful of something like miniature Tootsie Rolls or a bag of Hershey Nuggets. I can have that stuff in the house for months and never touch it and then one day start eating it and get tightness in the chest, sweaty, shaky and miserable for 30 minutes or so.
I vow it will never happen again, but it might so my solution is to never allow that stuff in my house again. I live alone so that is easy for me to do.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

I have found the biggest secret to getting rid of regain is to be realistic. I can cut out 500 calories a day and lose a pound a week. So if I needed to lose 35 pounds, I would allow 35 weeks. It is not going to be like right after surgery when you lose five pounds a week. Five pounds a month would be excellent.
Weigh yourself everyday, even if it stresses you out to do that. It is better to be stressed out by facing the scale than to be stressed out by regain. Don't make excuses when the scale goes up and say it is water weight or even worse fat turning into muscle. Get out of denial and face up to what you are doing.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

I had surgery over seven years ago and still have no appetite. I just eat because it is necessary to do so. I make sure I eat my required amount of protein and then add some salad and vegetables. I have gotten used to not having an appetite and would rather wear my size 4 jeans than look forward to food.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

I was on two weeks of clear liquids. So only broth, Diet Ginger Ale and Diet 7-Up, diet fruit juices, water, and sugar free popsicles. I lost 12 pounds.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

A fully grown pouch is between eight and twelve ounces. How big did they tell you yours is?
Compared to a stomach that was about 30 ounces, the pouch size should not matter. Rapid weight loss ends about six months for most of us. Are you tracking your food, counting calories and keeping carbs very low?

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Dumping is only from eating too much sugar. It is a tightness in the chest that makes me feel I am having a heart attack. Sometimes followed by diarrhea. It lasts about 30 minutes and then is over. Nothing the next day. It sounds like you had food stuck. When you eat too much too fast your pouch get strained and it takes a day or so to feel better.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

You should not have problems keeping soft foods down, but might be eating too much and/or too fast. A tablespoon or two is a lot at four weeks out and needs to be eaten very slowly.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Good for you for taking control again. The one thing you did not mention was whether you are weighing yourself. I found daily weighing to be the only way for me to stay out of denial and to keep from regain. If you are going to lose the entire 94 pounds of regain, then you need to realize that it might take close to two years.
The good thing is that you will be lower every week. Don't give up and don't take dieting breaks. Yep, this is a diet. The malabsorption from the surgery is long gone and you will only lose the weight by reducing calories.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Paul,
That does sound like a bug.
I know the team wants you to ride it out, I personally take Imodium. I also take four doses of Citicel Fiber every day. Two in the morning and two at night.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

My surgeon told me he would eliminate my hunger by also cutting my vagus nerve. It is over seven years now and I have not been hungry since the RNY and cutting of vagus nerve.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Set a goal and make it realistic. Our bodies get very efficient at holding on to calories after a few years. The body has been starved and is smart enough to learn how to not let that happen again.
Set a goal weight and put a date on. It will take hard work, but you should be able to lose a pound a week by cutting out 500 calories a day. To maintain 211 means you are eating more than 2200 calories a day. I have to go to 900 to lose weight. That takes time and planning but I do it when necessary.
You need to allow 30 weeks to get to 181. Plan your menus and mark your calendar each week. I would cut way back on the meat or divide the five ounces into two or three meals. Get a food scale to be sure.
I stick to six small meals a day and make sure they are 200 - 300 calories. When you start seeing results on the scale your motivation will increase.
The important thing to have a goal, give yourself the time needed and then go to work on that goal.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Sometimes calling too much just makes the scheduling people see you as an annoyance and they might keep you at the bottom of the list just because you are irritating. Give it a week and then call and ask if they have scheduled you and when is a good time or you to call back.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Every day that you wait the diabetes gets stronger and you chances of RNY putting it into remission get lower. You are being offered a chance that most people don't get.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

You should get a weight loss boost of at least 20 pounds with RNY revision. In order to reach your goal and maintain you will need to cut out carbs and calories.
Even though inconvenient you need to weigh daily.
When I traveled for business I would buy scales and leave them behind. Find a way to get protein powder and use that instead of mess room eating.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

It does not matter why you gained the seven pounds so much as how you are going to lose them.
Gaining seven pounds in a week tells me that you are not weighing daily. Eating extra calories will not keep you out of starvation mode because starvation mode is a myth.
It will put you into gaining mode which is very real.
I eat 1400 calories a day to maintain 136. If the scale goes up by more than one pound I drop to 900. Our bodies become very efficient at holding onto weight after the initial surgery honeymoon ends.
A personal trainer will not understand at all. Take it from
an old vet, we do not need the same amount of calories as a normal person who has not had their body surgically altered.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends


I want to be thrown into a tailspin if my weight goes up even by one pound.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends
