Can you eat whole wheat pasta, bread or any starch after VGS?

Without being rude...... cause were all fatties.... right????

Your a "carb person" that gained so much weight you/me needed WLS.....

I'm just gonna guess..... like me.... your carb sensitive.....

Every so often, someone chimes in here or at group and says "I'm Italian.... we eat pasta" like it's some given order to eat pasta.......

I always have to shut them up and say:....... "Is pasta more important to you and your culture, than rice and noodles are to mine"(I'm Asian)

If your carb sensitive, and you choose to eat it during WL........ It's going to be very difficult.......

frisco

They say your taste changes after the surgery.  I'm 13 months out now, and my own experience is that my body's reaction to food changed, so the things I prefer changed.  You like to eat pasta and bread now because they feel good and happy in your tummy after you eat them.  I absolutely was a bread and pasta person before my sleeve.   I don't get the same warm fuzzy feeling with pasta and bread now but I can eat them if I want.  It doesn't hurt or anything.  It just feels better to eat protein foods now, so I seem to prefer them.   I haven't found anything I can't eat due to the sleeve.

I am surprised that people here are being fairly gentle with their responses.  I did enjoy Frisco's though.  But he was even being nicer than normal.  

Bottom line is that you need to stop being a carb person and start being a protein person if you want to be successful.  

The carbs got you where you are and to get you where you want to be you need to stop it.  As was mentioned they are not strictly absolutely forbidden except perhaps during your weight loss phase.  

What you will find is that if you follow your surgeon's post op plans and go through your weight loss phase that you will have learned how to eat better.  Once you learn that and are successful with that your mindset will very likely change.  What I am saying is that you may still want something from time to time but you will be more responsible and realize it isn't a once a week thing or even perhaps a once a month thing but more of a on special occasions type of thing.  But if you choose one day to have some then you will learn that you need to get back to not having some more the next day or week or month but wait for another special time.  

The crap band is not really a good choice.  This forum is loaded with people that have revised from them.  My surgeon has even stopped doing them.  I truly believe that they will be phased out within 10 years.  They are foreign objects put into your body that slip and slide all over the place.  They also can have your stomach grow over them and then you have a mess where they need to be removed.

As for the protein shakes you will start out drinking a lot of them but they shouldn't end up being something that you will depend on for protein.  My surgeon has said that you can for the rest of your life have one per day.  This one shake will give you about 30 grams of protein and you will need to get the other 50 or more grams from dense proteins as was mentioned above.  The reason for that was also mentioned ... as you will find out drinking a shake will not keep you as full for as long as a 3 oz piece of chicken.  

You will also learn as was mentioned above that you always will eat proteins first.  This fills you up the fastest.  If there is room then you may have vegetables.  Beyond that if room allows and at this point it usually won't you can think about fruits and lastly whole grains are the last thing in.

Since I have already shared my post op plan on this forum so many times I think right now it might not be the right way to let you have that information.  However I think I am going to share it with you by sending it to you in a PM.  If anyone else is reading this I can also send it to you ... just let me know.  It is very detailed and I think it might give you an idea of what you should expect.

I know that you have a lot of thinking to do and I really hope you do that.  I would encourage you to find a local support group of people that have already had the surgery as well as others that are about to.  You can go there and get lots of information and perhaps get set on the right path for you.  It is always much easier to meet in person with a group of people that were "carb monsters" as you are and you will see how they managed to get off that path.  

It can be done and I think you need to start thinking not about what you can "get away" with based on which surgery you have and instead start to think how you will learn to eat a more healthy way so that the weight will peel right off.  To give you an idea on my surgeon's plan I lost 95 pounds within about 5 1/2 months.  That was all I needed to loose.  I have been in maintenance for more than 8 months and lost another 5 pounds even though I was trying to actually gain it back ... such a weird thought for me and so many others.  Never in my life have i been so successful loosing weight that I have actually wanted to gain some of it back ... lol.

I'll also have a copy via PM if you don't mind. No hurry, whenever you get around to it.

Hi, Thank you for your input. I want to be successful long term and I know myself, I am a very picky eater. My questions are to help me figure out which surgery would allow me to eat smaller portions of the few foods I enjoy. I will look for the message you sent me, my surgeon apt is august 15th, so I will see what he recommends as well.

THank you!

Just trying to find a way to better health!

No worries.  The answer is the sleeve will get you to the smaller portions.  Think about it this way.  The band will make the opening to your stomach smaller but food still passes through.  Your stomach is the same size and still wants to be filled it just takes a little longer to fill it through the small opening.

The sleeve gives you a small stomach that takes less to be filled.  Also the sleeve removes the part of the stomach that creates the hunger hormone called grehlin.  This is a hormone that goes to your brain to signal hunger.  With this removed your body will produce a lot less grehlin and therefore you will take longer to get hungry.  The band won't mess with this hormone and you will still feel hunger as you do now.

Hope that this helps.  Sorry I was a bit tougher with my answer.  Sometimes tough love is the way to go ... lol.

Could I have a copy as well? Starting to realize my post op plan isnt going to give me what i need...

I was told I can TRY to eat anything I want, AFTER I get in my protein for the day - and warned that some people find they can't tolerate things like bread and rice - things that will expand in the stomach.  Also, I was warned that eating what I had eaten previously will eventually do the same thing it did before - add on unwanted pounds.  

Although I agree that you have to eliminate the dreaded refined carbs, I have maintained very successfully for more than two years on a starch-based vegan diet including brown rice, all kinds of whole grains, potatoes, whole grain pasta, and lots of vegetables.  It's not for everyone, but it's worked for me.

Do more research on the band. There is a band and a revision forum on OH. While a few are successful with the band, many are not happy with their weight loss, and many more have horrendous complications. 

I'm a big proponent of WLS, but I would do anything to talk a loved one out of getting the band. More and more surgeons say they take more out than they put in.