Ketosis Issues

ssaassypants
on 1/16/09 1:26 am - McAlester, OK
Angi, I am not doubting how good the information is at all. It is good information. Its the reason why it was posted.  You should definately consider what the post says, please dont take disrespect from my post it isnt meant to you in that way!  But yes the information is good.

Hugs to you
okiechic7
on 1/16/09 1:51 am - Bethany, OK
No Angi, you didn't miss anything. I'm glad you felt the post was worth the reading and that maybe you learned something from it....That is all it is for.
There are some posts on here that seem to push for the High Protein diet and pushing towards Ketosis, so I just posted the facts about it...That's it. I am not saying anything is wrong with the diet, just to watch out for the things printed in the topic. Thats all!

I am glad you are doing so well and Welcome to the Board! Your views, thoughts, idea's are all welcome here.....I think anyone would agee wtih that! It makes no difference if you are preop, or post op, you are welcome and I'm sure have much to offer to the board...mostly experience and encouragement. Everyone needs that no matter what stage you are in....so welcome.
Sherry

 

okiechic7
on 1/16/09 1:38 am - Bethany, OK

 Sassy, this is not directed at you or anyone else. I posted this as it is vital information that must be included when considering this diet plan and I never see it posted. That is all this is meant to do and all I have ever wanted to do with this...proivide informational facts. Nothing else.  I am not going into anything about T, but I will say that I can post just like anyone else on here and I will post from time to time these facts, so that no one ends up with a medical crisis.  Surely you can't say there is anything wrong by posting medical information that may save someones life on this board?
You even said the information was good information to some other person on here..... so there should be no problem with people reading this and learning from it. Right? That is ALL it is meant to do or be. Nothing more!
Your remarks seemed in anger and I don't understand it  and am sorry for that, because this is the ONLY issue I have ever had about the low carb diet....that this medical part needed to be put out there along with it. People can read and decide themselves. That's all..
 

 

ssaassypants
on 1/16/09 1:55 am - McAlester, OK
I only took it the way I did because it seems like every time someone asks him for advice is when you post these type threads. I am not doubting any facts you find online.  But you did say

"THIS and only this has ever been my problem with the "militant plan" that is being offered up on this board. "  And we all know that there is only one person on this board with a militant plan. So that is kinda like flaming that person. 

We can chock it up to a learning experience for us both. I love and value T's advice and militant or not, every piece of advice he has given me my dr has confirmed his advice is good.  I would never try to get anyone to stop posting here that is not why i said what I said. Have a wonderful day

okiechic7
on 1/16/09 2:17 am - Bethany, OK
That is exactly correct....this and only this has been the problem with the militant plan...not a person at all....I love T and this board would not be the same without him, his jokes, his recipes and just him in general. I agree totally.....He is a wonderful person....But you know what....I am too. I am a wonderful nice person who cares about everyone of this board too.
When this plan is posted I have no problem with it at all as I too know it can work.... I just want the other facts known to prevent problems and that is all....So I posted them. Just like diet plans can be posted, so can the medical issues with them. I mean is that so harmful to include those?
I'm not flaming anyone at all.... I am posting information and that is it. I do hope you will forgive me if it seems that way, but it is not at all.....It's no different than any warning for anyone. It is not meant to harm anyone, just create awareness to the topic.

Sorry if you took it any other way.

Sher

 

marylaw
on 1/16/09 1:04 am - Winfield, KS
Hi, Sher.
There's wisdom in the saying, "Too much of any good thing is bad." If we are "all or nothing" about pretty much anything, even in our diet, it's going to turn on us, eventually.
Wt. Wise's food plan would be considered low-carb, especially since we're told to "eat protein first, and then if there's room, eat vegetables and fruit." Sometimes there's no room, but one can be attentive to that and, if the only-room-for-protein lifestyle continues for more than a few days at a time, one can choose a good carb snack. Although, there again, we're told "3 meals and no snacking." Eventually, though, our tummies have more room, and then we can eat a healthy percentage of protein and good carbs and healthy fat.
I think the point is to avoid putting your body into ketosis for an extended period of time. Every now and then, to jumpstart your body, to get out of a stall, sounds harmless to me, but, I'm no doctor, nor am I a nutritionist. It's a good topic about which to visit with your nutritionist.
Thanks for sharing.
Blessings,
Mary
"Don't tell God how big your storm is; tell your storm how BIG your God is!"

     ObesityHelp Support Group Leader and Support Group Coach
fleemore1
on 1/16/09 1:10 am - Harrah, OK
Hi, Mary!  I know for me in the beginning all I could seem to get in was the protein.  Then my bowels locked up like cement so I had to eat the protein first and then....work in some veggies and/or fruit and that is what keeps me regular.  I do eat protein first though but even if it's a few bites of the other it helps me!!

This is the ride of my life.....what an amazing tool I now have!!!
marylaw
on 1/16/09 1:18 am - Winfield, KS
Hi, Deb.
I know all too well about the "bathroom issues" that can come with protein first. I'm at the point where I take 3 bites of protein and 1 bite of vegetables, and it's heavenly! Before that it was, "Get out of my way! Where's the MiraLax?!" :)
Blessings,
Mary
"Don't tell God how big your storm is; tell your storm how BIG your God is!"

     ObesityHelp Support Group Leader and Support Group Coach
fleemore1
on 1/16/09 1:20 am - Harrah, OK
Me too!  Mirilax didn't do a thing for my problem either and I had to turn to my friend "Fleet".  I hated doing that but it was what worked and I had gotten DESPERATE!!!  TMI  (LOL)

This is the ride of my life.....what an amazing tool I now have!!!
jazzylady
on 1/16/09 1:35 am - tulsa, OK
LOL...I so know this feeling. I am dealing with that now...where is my miralax...or anything? LOL

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