When can you have Wendy's chili?

Good morning, I'm just curious, some centres say no beef until 6 months out, but I see some having Wendy's chili early out.  What is your opinions and experiences with having Wendy's chili?  I'm not trying to ru**** just curious. 

Thank you in advance and have a great day!!!!!

I went through Ottawa and was not told not to have beef until 6 months out. Each center has there own rules. I was eating beef at 3 months out. Call your dietitian just in case. Cindy

Beef was the only meat I could handle so my centre gave me the ok to have it at the puree stage.  They just said to make sure it was lean and very moist and it worked well for me.  BTW..I went through Humber.

That said, I didnt have Wendy's chili - I made my own. 

I was told that ground beef is different than other beef (preferrably extra lean, but don't have control over that with take out).  It is a little easier to digest.  They just don't want us eating steak or roast beef right away.  I ate Wendy's chili about a month out and have had it a few times now.  I also tried meatballs recently and they were okay too.

Guelph says no beef till 6 months but I told the dietician I ended up having 1/4 of a hamburger one time at a restaurant and I was fine.  She said not to pu**** however.
As someone said it depends on the center.

Joanne

I had it on puree stage (i took it home and pureed it) it went down very well

the reason behind the no beef for 6 months is that it's hard on liver, the liver is working hard to process the weight loss and beef is much harder to digest, therefore, more taxing on the liver.

Same goes for alcohol, hard on the liver.

This is not an attack on you in particular but the silly idea that the Ottawa clinic is putting out there that beef/red meat digestion is hard on the body. It's just silly - have you ever asked them for proof that beef is 'hard on the liver'? I'd be curious what they would have to say.

The liver is involved in protein and amino acid synthesis and metabolism, basically the liver helps break down the protein you eat into small enough particles to be used by the body. Your liver doesn't know whether you've eaten turkey, beef, a protein shake, etc - as far as the body is concerned, protein is protein. Beef is dense and keeps you fuller longer and take longer to digest, but that's no reason to think it is 'harder' on the liver. There is no evidence that the regular process of digestion is hard on the liver.

The only dietary item that has been found to lead to liver damage is fructose, and in particular high fructose corn syrup (found in pop and fruit juices in high quantities, but also in many grain products like breads and cereals). This is because it is uniquely metabolized by an enzyme that depletes all the ATP out of the liver which causes molecules in the liver to turn to fat - leading to Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease. This doesn't happen with any other kind of food digestion.

I don't know why the Ottawa team really wants people to stay away from red meat. Maybe it's because of the old-fashioned idea of it leading to weight gain due to being higher in fat, or out of concerns that people might not chew it properly, get it stuck and get discouraged. But the idea that it is 'hard on the liver' is just silly unless you're also going to make the claim that all meat is hard on the liver or that the normal process of protein digestion is 'hard on the liver', and there is no evidence for that.

I hope Ottawa is telling people to take extra B vitamins and iron if they are directing people to stay away from this nutrient dense (B vitamins, iron, zinc) source of protein. Buuuuut, no, they aren't. I wonder what their vitamin B deficiency and anemia rates look like for people 6 months out?

no offence taken, if I'm wrong then that's fine.

guelph did tell me that it was harder on the liver. Go figure, don't know where they get their info but i did what i was told.

There is so much conflicting information out there, no wonder we get confused.

J

 Pat, you may have misread, that Ottawa did not tell her to not eat beef.  I also went through Ottawa and as not told not to eat beef and although I had a VSG, the classes I went through were for the rny if that makes a difference.