Why so militant?
Where is the insult in anything I say? I think you might be hyper-sensitive.
Can't you be more original in your insulting of me? Really, you have a one-track and limited attack.
Can't you be more original in your insulting of me? Really, you have a one-track and limited attack.
"What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls the butterfly." Richard Bach
"Support fosters your growth. If you are getting enough of the right support, you will experience a major transformation in yourself. You will discover a sense of empowerment and peace you have never before experienced. You will come to believe you can overcome your challenges and find some joy in this world." Katie Jay
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on 10/18/11 1:34 am - Tuvalu
on 10/18/11 1:34 am - Tuvalu
On October 18, 2011 at 7:39 AM Pacific Time, Caprice wrote:
On October 18, 2011 at 7:25 AM Pacific Time, AnneGG wrote:
It is genuinely amazing to me that people should have such a heated and character attacking response to a simple request, which is considering the impact of your posts. Being a thoughtful adult seems to be a lot to ask of some of you.Did you ever hear of the defense mechanism called projection? I suggest you all look it up.
If you don't like what I have to say, please stay on your DS board with your friends or block me. That is the invitation you all extend to people who don't agree with you. I extend the same to you.
MORE insults.
Oh, Caprice...you're in a discussion of projection? (Or self-diagnosis?) Are you getting little clues as to WHY someone would project his/her own negative thoughts, motivations, fears, etc on so many other people?
Interesting, isn't it? We can convince ourselves that we are NOT attacking by accusing everyone ELSE of attacking. And by making ourselves "the good guy."
But the REAL clue is when the person engaging in projection starts including more and more people in the group he/she is sure is attacking him/her. Once you get to an, "I suggest you ALL..." kind of situation, the pathology is fairly advanced.
On October 18, 2011 at 7:02 AM Pacific Time, RagamuffinB wrote:
Ever had a toothache? Or a canker sore? Maybe a blister in an odd place on your foot? For the most part, you can go along fine and forget it is there, and then suddenly, you bump it, put something cold/hot/whatever on it and WOW the pain!
You, Anne, are my blister. I go along comfortably, reading this board, learning, enjoying the varied personalities. Sharing some laughs, some tears, shaking my head on occasion, growing a little indignant but by and large, enjoying the experience.
And then an otherwise bland post shows up and you chime in. WOW the pain! You instigate dissension. You antagonize. You bait. All the while holding yourself up as some kind of Mother Theresa of this board. Unlike that lady, however, you are smug and condescending. You insist we play by your rules and you have somehow managed to find a way to punish those who do not.
I may not post a great deal but i pay attention. You are after making this Board over in your image and, Sweetie, you just aren't all that. I don't want to be you. I don't want Twyla, Chad, Caprice, Diana or anyone else to be you. Quite frankly, there are times when I read a thread you play a part in and I would like you not to be you but that isn't my choice.
You are you and you may have a great deal to contribute to this board, IF and ONLY IF, you can climb down off your self-constructed pedastal and be a member of this place not the Lord and Master.
I don't need or want your 'protection', your censorship or your sanctimonious nattering. We are adults here.
Thank you. That is all I needed to say.
I remain naught but a
Ragamuffin.
Elizabeth
Back in the U.S.A.
"I have lost the lumbering hulk that I once was. I don't hide behind my clothes or behind my door. I am part of life's rich tapestry not an observer." Kirmy
If someone is snarky with me, I just ignore 'em. Why feed their energy is my attitude. Even if I'm tempted to respond (especially if I have thought of a snappy comeback) I don't do it. People are going to be who they are going to be. We can't change it. 
I come on this board because it's where a lot of new people come first.
I come on this board because it's where a lot of new people come first.
HW: 218, SW: 204, CW: 139 GW: 112-119
It is astonishing to me the personal attacks some people here get into to justify their personal positions- like making someone wrong helps their case. How it does is beyond me, and how it relates to support is also beyond me.
Just so people know, what some people here have made up about me is completely untrue. I find what they make up both amusing and sad, because it says more about the messenger than it does the recipient. And I guess aggressors can't see beyond the polarities of aggressor and victim, which is pretty limiting. But I guess if it makes them feel better about themselves, and justified in their own behavior, oh well. Not much I can do about it!
Though I still don't know what it has to do with support.
Just so people know, what some people here have made up about me is completely untrue. I find what they make up both amusing and sad, because it says more about the messenger than it does the recipient. And I guess aggressors can't see beyond the polarities of aggressor and victim, which is pretty limiting. But I guess if it makes them feel better about themselves, and justified in their own behavior, oh well. Not much I can do about it!
Though I still don't know what it has to do with support.
"What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls the butterfly." Richard Bach
"Support fosters your growth. If you are getting enough of the right support, you will experience a major transformation in yourself. You will discover a sense of empowerment and peace you have never before experienced. You will come to believe you can overcome your challenges and find some joy in this world." Katie Jay
All of it- all the character and professional namecalling and nastiness. I know you have read the threads on the two forums, so you know what has been said and you need no clarification. You yourself have never done any of the name calling, and for that I am grateful. But you certainly play with the gang.
I also realize that it is the internet and people don't know me at all, nor do I know them, so I don't take it personally. But what some people have made up about who I am and what I'm like.... oof, to put it mildly.
I know it is not useful to defend myself, because it will simply be twisted out of context. But I am a happy, healthy, successful human being. I love my work, and I am well known for it, enough that I don't have to take insurance, though I was a preferred provider with all the insurance panels. In addition, I am an RN. I have a fulfilling personal life with a great marriage, family, and good friends.
My only issue here on the MB has been people being nasty, namecalling, and undercutting. It simply is not appropriate on a support forum. I got flamed here for something I innocently posted when I first started posting, and that got my back up. I had no idea what a hornet's nest I would be walking into.
I want to say that I have also gotten and continue to get excellent support here from many on OH. That's also why I stick around. There are a lot of lovely decent people here.
I also realize that it is the internet and people don't know me at all, nor do I know them, so I don't take it personally. But what some people have made up about who I am and what I'm like.... oof, to put it mildly.
I know it is not useful to defend myself, because it will simply be twisted out of context. But I am a happy, healthy, successful human being. I love my work, and I am well known for it, enough that I don't have to take insurance, though I was a preferred provider with all the insurance panels. In addition, I am an RN. I have a fulfilling personal life with a great marriage, family, and good friends.
My only issue here on the MB has been people being nasty, namecalling, and undercutting. It simply is not appropriate on a support forum. I got flamed here for something I innocently posted when I first started posting, and that got my back up. I had no idea what a hornet's nest I would be walking into.
I want to say that I have also gotten and continue to get excellent support here from many on OH. That's also why I stick around. There are a lot of lovely decent people here.
"What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls the butterfly." Richard Bach
"Support fosters your growth. If you are getting enough of the right support, you will experience a major transformation in yourself. You will discover a sense of empowerment and peace you have never before experienced. You will come to believe you can overcome your challenges and find some joy in this world." Katie Jay
I'll be honest with you---I don't like you. Why? Because you behave like a forum nanny. I don't like ANYONE who thinks they have the right to tell others how to post here. I find your chastizing others for being snarky and calling names more distasteful than I find being snarky and calling names.
What you, and many others, fail to see is that sometimes "being mean" is the only way to get someone's attention. Some of the snarkiest people on here are also the people with the best information. They've become snarky from spending YEARS here, helping out newbies, answering the same questions over and over---and all too often those questions keep coming from the same PEOPLE, because those people didn't listen when the answers were given in a kinder, gentler manner. It's enough to make you snarky when the same person asks over and over about their vitamin levels, and instead of listening to GOOD advice, keep on taking Flintstones because the "nice" posters patted them on the back and said "There, there, you'll be okay."
So, we have two options here. The vets can continue to hang around and give good, solid info, even if it does sometimes come out a bit snarky---or the vets can leave, and all the newbies can just tell each other things will be okay and muddle through as best as they can.
What you, and many others, fail to see is that sometimes "being mean" is the only way to get someone's attention. Some of the snarkiest people on here are also the people with the best information. They've become snarky from spending YEARS here, helping out newbies, answering the same questions over and over---and all too often those questions keep coming from the same PEOPLE, because those people didn't listen when the answers were given in a kinder, gentler manner. It's enough to make you snarky when the same person asks over and over about their vitamin levels, and instead of listening to GOOD advice, keep on taking Flintstones because the "nice" posters patted them on the back and said "There, there, you'll be okay."
So, we have two options here. The vets can continue to hang around and give good, solid info, even if it does sometimes come out a bit snarky---or the vets can leave, and all the newbies can just tell each other things will be okay and muddle through as best as they can.
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