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mwy
on 4/29/10 3:38 am, edited 4/29/10 3:39 am
Topic: RE: Greetings
Hmmm, about those abbreviations, I had to look up HCG because although I know what it is, I didn't know exactly what it stood for.  I copied this:

hCG stands for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, a hormone produced by the placenta during pregnancy.  During pregnancy, the substance almost completely controls the woman's metabolic functions.  Generally, the hCG used in the diet protocols, is synthetic. 


This is a hormone used in conjunction with a VLCD...Very Low Calorie Diet.


PCOS is a metabolic syndrome caused by the ovaries producing too much male hormone...testosterone.  It causes cysts on the ovaries and insulin resistance and a whole other mess of symptoms that make you mostly miserable, like serious weight gain that is resistant to weight loss.  Boo hoo, that's what I have, but I am currently whooping it's A$$!

Mary   
A B
on 4/29/10 2:55 am - NM
Topic: RE: Alli or Full Bar??
i do understand that, truely!!  i was supposed to have surgery this past tuesday (27th) but changed my mind at the last minute because with the surgery there are possibilities of hypoglycemia and ulcers, which i felt were just as bad as some of the obesity related diseases- now that was a little easier for me to decide because even though i am morbidly obese, i don't actually have any co-morbidity diseases.  i am in no way trying to sway your decision, this is a big decision and although everyone on all these boards have different opinions, in the end it's your opinion that matters!!  however, if you want to try the healthy cooking, there are tons of cookbooks on the market now to teach you how to cook a little more healthy- you can check these out at your library as well, instead of going out and investing tons of money, check them out to decide which one works best for you.  good luck, think long and hard and remember to listen to your heart and your decision will be the right one!!  i'll be praying for you whatever you decide!!
Kimberly129
on 4/29/10 2:49 am - Austin, TX
RNY on 12/02/10 with
Topic: RE: Alli or Full Bar??
I know that even if I do have WLS I still need the self disiplin, I just feel like having the surgery is more of a tool to teach it to me, I know you dump when you eat foods that your not supposed and stuff like that, and I feel like thats what i need in order to learn the self disiplin I need.

Like I said I want to try it on my own the thought of all the risks with the surgery I have a 3 year old and I want to be here to see him grow up, I dont want my weight to kill me and I dont want to have sever complications from WLS and that kill me.

I am giving it my all to learn the healthy ways to eat and the right choices. I have no clue how to fix a healthy meal I cant find anything online with free help to teach me or give me a meal plan. I feel like if I could have someone tell me weekly or even monthly what my meal plan is dor each day I could do it, but having to think it on my own I have no clue and it makes me feel hopeless. I would so much rather lose the weight on my own then have WLS I just feel I have no other options.
HW389 SW367 CW273 GW180 
1lb lost is 1 step closer to your g
oal !!
    
A B
on 4/29/10 2:23 am - NM
Topic: RE: Alli or Full Bar??

i can't use ali because i have no gallbladder and i won't get into the problems that can cause!!  but regarding the full bar- i compared it to a regular protein bar and this is what i came up with:

the fullbar has less calories, sodium and fat than the protein bar and is 1 point less (ww) than the protein bar.  however, it has more sugar, carbs and less protein than the protein bar, so i choose to eat the protein bar because it keeps me full longer.  i normally eat one either mid morning or mid afternoon when i get hungry but don't want to waste points something non-nutritional, the protein bar has 20 grams of protein and only 2g of sugar, so, for me, it's a good replacement to my habitual candy bar at that time and normally keeps me satisfied until dinner.  hope that helped!! 

(deactivated member)
on 4/29/10 1:28 am - West Central FL☼RIDA , FL
Topic: Food for Thought
I had a tough day on Tuesday.......I was feeling sorry for myself and upset because of my swelling issues.  By Tuesday night  I was done with the pity party and focusing on all the good that has come since shedding all that weight and having plastic surgery.


Offerings of the Day
Finding Gifts In All

We can reframe bad days by spending some time before going to bed each night to review the gifts we received that day.


When we have good days, we often find ourselves going over the details later, enjoying them a second and third time as we feel the joy of our good fortune. When we have bad days, we may find ourselves poring over the details of our misfortunes. However, we can reframe those bad days by making it a daily practice to spend some time before going to bed each night to review the gifts we received that day. Regardless of our evaluation of the day—good, bad, mediocre—we can call forth the many blessings that were present. This practice transforms our consciousness as it reveals the fullness at the heart of our lives.

Some days it’s easy to recount the gifts we’ve received; on other days, we have to look harder for the offerings of the day, but once we do, we will find there are always quite a few. We can keep it simple and be grateful for the fact that we have a roof over our head, nature, food, and our health. Once we have fully experienced these gifts, we can move outward to the gifts that may require a little more thought such as the gifts of forgiveness, tolerance and acceptance that we may have learned that day. We can also always be grateful for the people in our lives who support us, no matter how bad our day may have been.

Just reviewing the many positive offerings in our lives provides a context for our difficulties that puts them in proper perspective, but we can also make an effort to see the gifts even in adverse cir****tances. This can be challenging and may require some practice before it feels authentic, but we have all had the experience of a disappointment or loss leading to a surprising gain. Just remembering this and trusting the give and take of life can help us to remember that sometimes the best gifts of all are the ones we don’t recognize right away. In addition, the lessons we learn in the face of adversity are offerings in their own right, allowing us to count patience, wisdom, and fortitude alongside the other gifts of the day.


(deactivated member)
on 4/29/10 1:19 am - West Central FL☼RIDA , FL
Topic: RE: Food for Thought
Amen Sister!

I never took care of myself.  I never loved myself enough to make me a priority....Until I was close to turning 51 and I decided I wanted to live and I knew to live I needed to get healthy.  I went to the point of telling my family and friends that I was going to be selfish and make me my priority by taking the time I need to get healthy.
(deactivated member)
on 4/29/10 1:06 am - West Central FL☼RIDA , FL
Topic: RE: Alli or Full Bar??
HI and welcome to our corner of the world.....

CONGRATS on taking control. 
I asked my Dr about Ali a few years ago (before I started my own journey).  He discouraged me from using it.  He actually said, if I didn't mind soiling my pants I could use it...... I asked him to clarify and he did....     
Since Ali stops the absorption of fat it slides through the body quickly and easily and often times with little warning, ergo, the pants soiling.  

I once ate a Full Bar as a snack meal when on the road but didn't look into it as a serious weight loss plan.

I just want to toss out a couple thoughts..........
"You mentioned you don't think you have willpower or self discipline to stick with something to lose weight."  I have a number of friends who had WLS...in order to lose the weight and keep it off you still need will power and self control.   

I lost my weight by eating healthy and exercising.  Bottom line its all about calories in and calories out.  I did not starve myself.  I ate all day (and still do).  I finally learned that I can't lose weight by eating only 800 cals a day.  Yes, I would lose temporarily but I would crack and go back to old/bad habits and regain the 40 or 50 lbs I lost......PLUS MORE.  When I started on my journey I started out by eating about 1,800 cals a day (hey, I was almost 300 lbs at that point so I need more food to keep the body working), PLUS I worked out 6 days a week.

The difference for me this time and the hundreds of times in the past I failed was this........ I finally realized I would die very young if I didn't take control and I I wanted to live.  I hoped it was not too late for me but I decided to take control.  I looked into WLS but decided I would give it one more try.   I sort of sat down and talked to myself and decided to make me my priority for the first time in my life.  I told my friends and family I was going to be selfish but I had to take the time to focus on me.  I tried to select healthy foods for every meal and snack.

Hope you post often and share with us...
Best Wishes on your decisions and journey!
gloop
on 4/29/10 12:36 am
Topic: RE: What are you celebrating and proud of? Thurs
 size 4 pants    ....  I'm celebrating feeling better and getting stronger everyday and also seem to be coming out of my depression.
        
I'm in the process of changing my diet, relationship with food and my lifestyle.  I'm in training for maintaining.
gloop
on 4/29/10 12:32 am
Topic: RE: Alli or Full Bar??
On April 28, 2010 at 9:01 PM Pacific Time, Kimberly129 wrote:
This is the first time I posted on this board, actually this is the first time Ive even visited this board.  I am at this point in the process of going thru the process for WLS however I still of doing it on my own without WLS.   I dont feel that I have the willpower or self disipline to stick to something to make me lose the weight, I feel having WLS will be the tool I need to teach myself how to have self control.  IDK maybe im just fooling myself, but I thought id get advice if any of you used Alli or Full Bar or anything else as a tool to help you lose the weight.
PS about the willpower and self discipline.  I used to think I didn't have the will power but I am realizing that it's not so much about my will power as it is about the process I use to get healthy.  If you use the right process the body is amazing and forgiving and will regulate itself naturally but you have to give it the right foods.  The reason we can't resist eating what we are not supposed to is because half the time we are starving ourselves without realizing it and the urge to eat is unstoppable.  Once you start eating right and exercising you won't have to worry about will power.  I find that exercise also helps to control my appetite.
        
I'm in the process of changing my diet, relationship with food and my lifestyle.  I'm in training for maintaining.
gloop
on 4/29/10 12:26 am
Topic: RE: Alli or Full Bar??
I want to support what Mary and Sherrie said.  The best way to start is to detox your body from processed foods THEY ARE ADDICTIVE.  I am talking from experience because I am going through the process right now and it is a very difficult struggle but I have decided that I'm going to do this now.  I've tried all those weight loss shakes, bars etc looking for a quick fix to weight loss and they don't work, you lose the weight and regain all and then some because your body is starving and wants to be nourished with REAL food.  All that weight loss crap is toxic.  You have to get your body and taste buds used to food that God/nature intended for it.  So my advice would be to eat as much natural foods as you can, eliminate oils and fats, excess sugars and excess salt from your diet and get moving.  I see amazing results everytime I stick to my exercise program.  I'm taking the stairs more now and I am way less tired than I used to be and my depression is not as bad as before.  The more I eliminate those toxic foods from my diet the better I feel.  I want to stress it is not easy at first because your body and mind will resist the change but you must keep at it and it will get better with time if you give it a chance.  Good luck and keep posting on this message board.
        
I'm in the process of changing my diet, relationship with food and my lifestyle.  I'm in training for maintaining.
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