When do you feel stuffed?

When I eat to the point of filling my pouch, I sneeze and sneeze about twenty times.  I can be in a restaurant and eat that one bite to fill me up and my husband will see the look on my face and he immediately hands me a napkin because he knows that the sneezing will commence.  This annoyance has kept me from really overeating.  My surgeon said that the nerves that control coughing and sneezing are closely knit with the nerves that tell us we are full and that some people who have wls tend to have a mix up with these nerves.  He said it was rare, but he has seen a couple of us who sneeze and others who cough and others who do what non wls people do and that’s belching. 

There have been times when I did over do it on heavy foods that are greasy and have thrown up and I don’t think I am really overeating on these foods; just the grease makes me sick in pretty much the same way that sugars make me ill.  I don’t think I dump, I think I just get sick.  Once I ate three chicken strips and we had to pull over the car for me give the chicken back to mother earth.  It’s strange how I can eat a chicken thigh or almost an entire chicken thigh but the breasts make me ill. I know that some foods like soups, I can eat a little more, but dense foods like meat, I don’t do well at all.  My surgeon said I should be able to eat an entire cup of cottage cheese.  Ha!  That just isn’t a possibility.  He also said that I should be able to eat a small burger.  I cannot do that unless I take the bread off and I can eat one of those child meal burger patties.  One thing that I can eat a lot of but don’t even buy is crackers.  I can eat an entire package of those peanut butter crackers—well the little package of eight. So, my question to you guys is this:  how much can you eat and what is the hardest thing for you to eat?   

 

Morning to you, Jeannie, and I know just what you are saying about he sneezing but mine is different. I am one of the belchers. I get to the point that I belch and then I know it is time to stop. Of late though it has been hiccups. But things are goofy now...sometimes it doesn't come and other times it comes to late. I think my whole body is goofy now but hopefully it will be "right" again soon. I depend on the belching...it is my friend. ha ha

Right now I am having a hard time knowing what is going to be alright to eat and what isn't. The medicine that I am on for the infection is really playing havoc with my tummy and Harpo isn't behind the door at letting me know that either, let me tell ya! I take my clues from Harpo because I am not happy if he isn't happy. And btw....Harpo is my pouch...he is named after the Marx brother that is usually quiet but at times can be REALLY vocal...and that is most definitely Harpo!

I think that the problem that you have with the dark and white meat of the chicken is the moisture. The dark meat is much moister and so I think the white meat is just to dry for you. I find I have problems eating turkey. I don't mean the deli turkey...the really honest to God Thanksgiving turkey type. I just have a big problem with that. I can tolerate sugar to a extent but the sugar alcohols play havoc with me....boy can I dump on those!!!! I could tell that I was a compulsive eater for sure (like I ever doubted that) when I got sick after eating some and then I tried to figure out how much sugar I could eat before I got sick. I remember thinking to myself....I AM REALLY SICK! Sometimes we need to be reminded of that fact...or at least I do.

I hope that they really start to do something about the ulcer. I think that some people are prone to them. I know that Bill is..the last time he was scoped he had 8 ulcers.......he is one that doesn't listen to anyone at all...so it is hard to feel sorry for him..but in the end I do. We never want to see our loved ones suffer. Even if they suffer because of their own decisions.

They don't know why I developed the ulcer.  The surgeon said that it's the hydrochloric acid that is eating my lining, not a bacterial ulcer.  That's why I can take those prilosec and feel better but somedays the acid cannot be tamed. I don't eat bad foods or any of that, and I'm cutting down on the diet cokes; although, the doctor said that really food doesn't matter.  So, I just take it as one of those freak things that happens to some of us and not others.  On most days, I'm happy about it because I don't tolerate a lot of food but on the bad days, I am sick as a dog and the pain is disabeling. 

You're right about the dark versus light meat.  I knew that was the reason but even when I really tenderize the white meat and chop it up and put it in a dressings of sorts, it still makes me ill.  My favorite meat is osyters. They are just a delight to eat and don't cause me pain. LOL. 
Hope you get to feeling better.

Jeannie, Bill's ulcers are not the bacterial kind either. It would me so much easier if they were since they can give you pills for that and then it is bye bye ulcers...the whole thing just goes away. Leave to some(like you and Bill) to have the more difficult kind. ha ha

Mine is from increased hydrochloric acid which is not a problem if it is produced and goes through.  But, mine sits in my pouch eating away at the lining and giving me huge amounts of pain.  Plus, when it goes through like when I eat and it makes it to my small intesting, I double over with the pain that it causes.  Plus, it constipates me and makes my liver hurt.  It's just painful all the way around.  At first, I thought it was my liver.  So, they did scans and biopsies and all such tests because my liver enzymes were up really high; however, they scoped me and the surgeon said he thought the acid content in my pouch was going to eat the camera.  He took bipsies of the lining and said it showed considerable breakdown and they started me on liquid carafate every two hours and prilosec.  This helped and pretty soon I was back to being normal and they took me off of it and back to being sickly.  One thing I know, if I want to lose a lot of weight, all I have to do is go off my meds. LOL.  So, they are playing with the idea of a new pouch but like I said, it's a no win situation.  So, I'll live on prilosec for now.  It works almost all the time.

Hi Jeannie,

Here's my story. If I eat the things I am suppose to, I feel stuffed after a few bites, if I eat, and I am like you here, crackers (with peanut butter) I can eat one right after the other....I limit myself to 6 for lunch everyday...I was up to about 12 crackers...and those along with these WONDERFUL granola bars I make (copied from Starbucks) I had gained about 10 lbs. I am limiting the bars to 1 a day...they are healthy with sunflower seeds raw, pumpkin seeds raw, walnuts and pecans, raisins, oat meal and rice krispies....OMG! I could eat 6 or more a day...Oh, wait, I was doing that. Anyway, I cannot eat chicken white meat, or pork usually. I have a hard time with salmon too. If I take small bites and chew really really well till it's mush, I can sometimes eat  a tiny bit. I cannot eat rice or pasta; barf. That is a good thing or I'd be in big trouble. So, if I ate these things that were all protein that would limit me, and  I would be probably still losing weight below my goal. But like everyone says, they didn't do brain surgery on me...so I still have the hunger in my head. I am doing pretty well though and would not change a thing. I have lost about 5 of the 10 I gained and I think I will be OK, just is still a lot of work and thinking about food. I wish I did dump but I can eat all things sweet. Oh, rarely I will get nauseated but not enough to keep me from eating those things. Struggling to eat what's good for me is still a daily battle.

I am sorry you have such a crappy time with your stomach. It must get so old...and frustrating.

The oysters sound really good, I need to try them. My dad, my sister and I use to eat smoked oysters and gross my mom out. One of my favorite memories of my dad. I also remember a really old black and white movie I was watching as a kid with my dad and they were eating smoked oysters at a fancy restaurant and they were poisoned and the guy died. I was scared to eat them for a long time but didn't want to tell my dad, so I would eat them and then just worry...

Cheryl

I cannot do the sweets at all. Once, though, I took a bite of my grandson's birthday cake and I got a really runny foamy mouth.  After that, I haven't tried.  I cannot even do the sugar substitues, especially if there are a lot of alcohols in them.  It's good you are getting control of what you are are not supposed to do.  That's why I don't buy the crackers.  I stopped buying peanut butter too. After this jar is gone, no more.  Because, really, I will just eat peanut butter. 

Jeanie,I am happy you found foods you can tolerate,there have been some of our alumni tha have had to be hospitalized because they were starving.

Thanks Linda.  I've had problems in the past and before they discovered what was causing the severe pain, I did end up dehydrated numerous times.  But, I always have managed, even with the pain, to get a bit of broth down. I know that there are several on this board who have suffered with nausea and vomitting to the point of starvation and I really have learned from them.  When I get sick, I don't mess around. 

Good for you,Jeannie.
Hugs!