When do you feel stuffed?

The acid for me doesn't come up, it just sits in there burning holes. Or, it moves into my small intestine where it really burns.  At first, the surgeon couldn't believe that I wasn't spilling it upward.  He even thought that the reason I get pneumonia so often was because of the acid in my pouch, but the test confirm, it just sits there or goes down.  So, the conundrum for me is what to do and if I want to do something to just have it repeated.

I cannot do pasta at all and rice falls into that category.  I've tried every kind of noodle known to man and they all do that sitting there and swelling and killing me until I either throw it up or go to bed.

I think as food addicts, we often misinterpret our cues for feeling full.  Maybe when we started out overeating, we got to that point where we ignored the signs and we all post wls have these signs that say to us, don't eat that, or slow down and I wonder how we all interpret these signs. 

It's interesting to me that some of us have the sinus thing.  I sneeze and others get a running nose. Even when I get so sick that I am going to hurl, it starts out with sinus drainage and thick drainage.  I just cannot stand it and then, I think from hacking it up, I end up losing my lunch.  I only do this when I overeat. LOL

I think it makes a great topic for a meeting. 

Jeannie, My signal to pay attention to is a runny nose. When it starts it is time to stop eating NOW! I can eat a cup of oatmeal or cottage cheese and fruit at one sitting. One half of a small sandwich and about 1/3 cup of soup also will fill me to the brim. So I know my pouch works when I choose to work with it the way I'm supposed to.

Dense meats really fill me fast. I just now am beginning to enjoy a few bites of very tender steak. That used to be my absolute favorite mile especially a tender sirloin. Also loved the Malibu Chicken from The Sizzler.

When I stick with protein first I do fill up and it stays with me longer. However, far too often I make the decision to eat what I want first and protein later. I'm dealing with those old head hunger issues way too often these days. I feel good, have lots of energy and there is no danger of wasting away.

 However, I would like to lose the last of my excess weight and currently I'm not doing what it takes to do that.

Karen,

I am like you, I know if I eat the protein first, I am going to fill up and fill up fast.  I don't like the way the protein makes my pouch feel.  It isn't painful, it's just full. So, I would rather eat a baked potato or a huge bowl of green beans, because it is easier on my pouch.  So, my conundrum is to make myself eat the protein and deal with the feelings of fullness.  I still cannot eat an entire cup of cottage cheese and the doc wants me to be able to do that.  I try but it sets me off to sneezing and I know what one more bite would do. 

I can eat an entire five ounce piece of veal, but veal is so politically incorrect and I hate that it is so tender and easy on my pouch and when I am really starving and needing food that I can digest, I do get a piece of veal and feel like a creep for doing so.  But it is so tender and easy for me to eat.  

We are, if anything, colorful eaters now aren't we?

I play the "a cow is a cow" game with myself, but I still see those little calf eyes. I always told my mom that if I had had to clean meat or chickens I would be a vegetarian! Really shouldn't matter if it's a grown cow, a baby, or anywhere in between but it does!

I was raised on a farm and I watched my mother ring the necks of chickens for Sunday dinner and came home from school as the pet pig, or hog, was being hosited up into a big tree to be bled.  I've watched them butcher deer, beef, and even helped skin the rabbits and squirrles that my brothers shot and brought home, but I still have this guilt associated with eating veal. Silly I know. I think a good kill justifies our eating meat.  I mean a quick shot, humane like.  I guess I feel that veal are those little calfs who are not given roaming space, ect.  But, veals is sure tasty.

What a good thread. I have no problem with 1 cup of cottage cheese with strwberries on it, prob. almost two cups of food. I get full but don't get hungry again for five or six hours. I eat the same thing pretty much every day, steel oats with protein powder and blueberries, cot cheese strawberrie, and salad with 4 oz chicken breast cut up tiny pieces with cranberries and slivered almonds. Steak always, sometimes chicken and salmon have gotten stuck and I have to make myself throw up. I hate that feelng so stay away from these foods except that I can eat chicken in a salad. I dump on sweets, both sugar free and regular but am such a sicko I have continued to eat these things as part of my food addiction trying to seek comfort from these foods. They not only make me sick, they don't bring comfort anymore. Like others say they fixed my stomach not my head. I am consumed by thoughts of food or wanting to eat all the time. Having gained back 50# I feel like a real failure but I am working on my issues in a food addiction 12 step group. I get a runny nose when my pouch is too full.

Karen

Karen,

I'm so sorry about your weight gain.  I know how messed up we get with our food issues.  If I didn't have this freaking ulcer, I would not have lost the weight that I've lost.  I'll be totally honest here, sometimes when my ulcer feels like it is getting healed and the hydrochloric acid is under control, I stop taking the med so that I can get sick so that I cannot eat.  Sicko for sure.  At least you are not intentionally making yourself sick so you won't eat.

I guess we both have our issues with food.  Start writing what you are eating on the what you are eating board and in a journal and do that for a week and after a bit, you will see that you are not eating because you don't want to see it looking back at you.  I still use a baby plate to eat and I still eat from a baby bowl for my soups and I don't drink when I eat nor do I drink after for about thirty minutes.  I measure my food and don't ever put over six ounces of meat on my plate and I make sure I leave about a third of that.  I also only do a fourth a cup of vegetables and I try to leave a bite or two of that too.  I play with my food and my husband gets so frustrated with me.  He just doesn't understand how it feels to want to eat so damn bad and not being able to because of the fear of gaining and I know I will be one of those who gains if I didn't have the ulcer.  Once I asked my doctor to just take the stomach completely out to rid me of the ulcer and to make it where I cannot eat at all.  He laughed and thought I was kiddig, but I was damn straight serious. 

We are a mess, us previous fat ladies.  I wish there were a pill we could take to heal our minds too.