way OT: my roxie story or mad (about the )dog!
i shouldn't have put anything in the what's new to tease you -sorry!!! i have been so angry since yesterday afternoon about this but didn't wanna explain fully---at least not at 1230 last nite!so--
first i have to tell you that our chico (blue and gold macaw for those who don't know) used to say (before he got sick last fall) "mad dog ,mad dog grrrrr! "--his first house had a neighbor dog named chuck--he also would say "chuck! where's chuck?"
ok-= so-lemme tell the story of what is required to take a dog or cat to hawaii-in case you missed it the other day- there are no rabies on the hawaiian islands so they want to keep it that way-
a dog or cat must be microchipped, must have had two rabies shots (minimum)total (the last one NOT being within 90 days of arriving) and they must have a special blood draw (OIE FAVN) to check for rabies- this is sent to a lab in kansas city -unless you are in the service. their "titre" must be at least 0.5 to pass. they have to have a certificate from the vet (done within 10 days of arrival) for well dog/cat. after the blood draw -you wait at least one day after it is rec'd at the lab before you start counting their 120 day quarantine at your house.they must fly in an airline approved carrier that they can stand up and turn around in and they shouldn't be doped up-no toys no blankie no extras-must have food and water dishes but not food and water in them! certain papers have to accompany them -and if they are not coming with you they must have a special form from the airline. ..they can't fly if it's too hot or too cold....(cold could be a problem for us) . there is a form that has to be sent to the hawaiian dept of ag before they arrive with $165 fee each animal (birds are less stringent and only $5.00 fee). they must arrive at honolulu airport during biz hours mon thru fri and they get taken off the plane by ag ppl and driven to a site where they are checked over and matched with their papers- then they are taken back to you at airport so you can fly to your destination island....so you have not seen the animal for more than 6 hours minimum (flights from california take 5 hours 20 minutes) and they are probly stressed. ok- so!
first; michael said we weren't taking any dogs then he decided later we were- which meant roxie's vetting was putting her departure off til thanksgiving even tho we wanted to leave mid october- so- i made arrangements with a wonderful friend to keep her til she could go(end of november) and put her on the plane for me-and take her to their vet for the well dog certificate-ok- fine--so then we decided we should wait til thanksgiving so A) i would have more paychecks under my belt here (since i don't have a job lined up there) and B) we could be responsible for roxie and not put our friend and her family out.it's a lot of responsibility to do what i was asking and she said yes with no prob but still...
ok- i am going to digress for a second again...when ya feel an "instinct" kicking in-follow it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when i first took roxie to the vet for her blood draw- the vet said that he felt comfortable her shot from 2 years ago would be strong enough to give her a good titre-so we took the test and then waited a few weeks to get her last updated rabies shot. if you do the shot first you have to wait at least 3 weeks to draw the blood...so--i listened to the vet-NOT MY INSTINCT!
so--roxie got her blood drawn..a few weeks later she got her rabies shot and we waited- i would call and no results yet --the lab won't talk to me- only sends results to dept of ag hawaii and the vet here.....and we're counting her days til thanksgiving when she can leave.....
so yesterday, on the drive to summit cty, i'm thinking it' slong holiday weekend so i should call and the vets to ask when her results came back and when they were rec'd in kansas city...i'm on hold for about 5 minutes (thank goodness cell minutes are free on weekends!) when a very nice gal comes back and asks if we did her draw before or after her shot? ouch..something's not good here--"roxie failed her draw" she goes on to say.
WTF???????????no one called or wrote to tell me this- they just put the results in her file and filed it......TWO WEEKS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so-this tuesday (remember we have monday holiday!) at 4:20pm... roxie gets her blood drawn AGAIN--which will put her departure date off til at least january 11th-NEXT FRIGGIN YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well- my mom says she'll watch her for us so we can leave at thanksgiving- but-that's where the prob about it being too cold for roxie to fly... i am not sure what we're doing about that now--staying here in ohio til then means heating the house and shovelling that white crap...and driving to california thru the snow and ice in january--dunno...and i know my mom will do this-as would our friend if still able but it's a lot to ask and to expect someone to do...
so--what am i mad about or who am i mad at????? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..michael for prolonging the decision to take her in the first place?????the vet's office for not calling or writing?????...roxie for not passing her test????nah-not her fault!!!...me for not calling the vet for the gazillionth time two weeks ago??????...me for not following my first instinct????????????????????????? i think so.
that's my story.....can ya feel my frustration?????????????????
and did i mention that i wanted to go in october????????????? in a month?????????????????
*******oh-btw-it's 9:06 pm and i am STILLLLLL in my nightgown!!!!***********
first i have to tell you that our chico (blue and gold macaw for those who don't know) used to say (before he got sick last fall) "mad dog ,mad dog grrrrr! "--his first house had a neighbor dog named chuck--he also would say "chuck! where's chuck?"
ok-= so-lemme tell the story of what is required to take a dog or cat to hawaii-in case you missed it the other day- there are no rabies on the hawaiian islands so they want to keep it that way-
a dog or cat must be microchipped, must have had two rabies shots (minimum)total (the last one NOT being within 90 days of arriving) and they must have a special blood draw (OIE FAVN) to check for rabies- this is sent to a lab in kansas city -unless you are in the service. their "titre" must be at least 0.5 to pass. they have to have a certificate from the vet (done within 10 days of arrival) for well dog/cat. after the blood draw -you wait at least one day after it is rec'd at the lab before you start counting their 120 day quarantine at your house.they must fly in an airline approved carrier that they can stand up and turn around in and they shouldn't be doped up-no toys no blankie no extras-must have food and water dishes but not food and water in them! certain papers have to accompany them -and if they are not coming with you they must have a special form from the airline. ..they can't fly if it's too hot or too cold....(cold could be a problem for us) . there is a form that has to be sent to the hawaiian dept of ag before they arrive with $165 fee each animal (birds are less stringent and only $5.00 fee). they must arrive at honolulu airport during biz hours mon thru fri and they get taken off the plane by ag ppl and driven to a site where they are checked over and matched with their papers- then they are taken back to you at airport so you can fly to your destination island....so you have not seen the animal for more than 6 hours minimum (flights from california take 5 hours 20 minutes) and they are probly stressed. ok- so!
first; michael said we weren't taking any dogs then he decided later we were- which meant roxie's vetting was putting her departure off til thanksgiving even tho we wanted to leave mid october- so- i made arrangements with a wonderful friend to keep her til she could go(end of november) and put her on the plane for me-and take her to their vet for the well dog certificate-ok- fine--so then we decided we should wait til thanksgiving so A) i would have more paychecks under my belt here (since i don't have a job lined up there) and B) we could be responsible for roxie and not put our friend and her family out.it's a lot of responsibility to do what i was asking and she said yes with no prob but still...
ok- i am going to digress for a second again...when ya feel an "instinct" kicking in-follow it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when i first took roxie to the vet for her blood draw- the vet said that he felt comfortable her shot from 2 years ago would be strong enough to give her a good titre-so we took the test and then waited a few weeks to get her last updated rabies shot. if you do the shot first you have to wait at least 3 weeks to draw the blood...so--i listened to the vet-NOT MY INSTINCT!
so--roxie got her blood drawn..a few weeks later she got her rabies shot and we waited- i would call and no results yet --the lab won't talk to me- only sends results to dept of ag hawaii and the vet here.....and we're counting her days til thanksgiving when she can leave.....
so yesterday, on the drive to summit cty, i'm thinking it' slong holiday weekend so i should call and the vets to ask when her results came back and when they were rec'd in kansas city...i'm on hold for about 5 minutes (thank goodness cell minutes are free on weekends!) when a very nice gal comes back and asks if we did her draw before or after her shot? ouch..something's not good here--"roxie failed her draw" she goes on to say.
WTF???????????no one called or wrote to tell me this- they just put the results in her file and filed it......TWO WEEKS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so-this tuesday (remember we have monday holiday!) at 4:20pm... roxie gets her blood drawn AGAIN--which will put her departure date off til at least january 11th-NEXT FRIGGIN YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well- my mom says she'll watch her for us so we can leave at thanksgiving- but-that's where the prob about it being too cold for roxie to fly... i am not sure what we're doing about that now--staying here in ohio til then means heating the house and shovelling that white crap...and driving to california thru the snow and ice in january--dunno...and i know my mom will do this-as would our friend if still able but it's a lot to ask and to expect someone to do...
so--what am i mad about or who am i mad at????? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..michael for prolonging the decision to take her in the first place?????the vet's office for not calling or writing?????...roxie for not passing her test????nah-not her fault!!!...me for not calling the vet for the gazillionth time two weeks ago??????...me for not following my first instinct????????????????????????? i think so.
that's my story.....can ya feel my frustration?????????????????
and did i mention that i wanted to go in october????????????? in a month?????????????????
*******oh-btw-it's 9:06 pm and i am STILLLLLL in my nightgown!!!!***********
I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White
Margo, I see your frustration. And I heard your frustration too. Please know that I totally understand what you are saying about instincts. I go with that all the time and regret it when I go against them too. I am keeping you all in my prayers....and know that even though you didn't go with your instincts it will work out for the best.
Love and hugs being sent to you, Margo dear. Please keep us posted on how things are going.
Love and hugs being sent to you, Margo dear. Please keep us posted on how things are going.
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Margo could you all not go on and go as planned and then your mom put her on the plane in March of April? no there is probalbly some law that says something im forgeting isnt there? i can understand your flustrations but she would be fine with your mom you know ...that just all seems like so much confusion i wouldnt want to take it on myself.
dont give up your plans to leave in Oct. that is the timeline you have set and if you do im afraid it will keep getting pushed back...as someone that is older and maybe wiser (that is doubtful but makes me feel good to say it ) dont put off dreams. if you do one day you will look up and realize that you never made it happen and now is too late.
do you have a friend in Ca. that would take care of her for you for the months that she needs and could send her out as it wont be too cold in Ca. in January especially. if i lived there i would take care of her in a heartbeat for you.
there is way to much confusion for other places in taking people and animals in it seems. i will be praying that someone will step up and give you the right answers.
dont give up your plans to leave in Oct. that is the timeline you have set and if you do im afraid it will keep getting pushed back...as someone that is older and maybe wiser (that is doubtful but makes me feel good to say it ) dont put off dreams. if you do one day you will look up and realize that you never made it happen and now is too late.
do you have a friend in Ca. that would take care of her for you for the months that she needs and could send her out as it wont be too cold in Ca. in January especially. if i lived there i would take care of her in a heartbeat for you.
there is way to much confusion for other places in taking people and animals in it seems. i will be praying that someone will step up and give you the right answers.
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jan...thx..we already decided a few weeks ago that we were going to wait til thanksgiving to go-thinking she could go with us then-before we found out she failed the test...and it gives us more paychecks here in pocket.. so if we wait til end of november what's waiting til mid january??haha -cold ice and snow....heat bills and cold ice and snow...and i am afraid to keep changing the deadlines but i feel there is a reason so i have to think this thru.....when we get there i want it to be good so i need to keep thinking it thru!
my mom has a houseful of too many dogs and they are more outdoor type dogs where roxie cannot just walk out a door to potty-she runs away....and there is always drama at my moms...i dunno what we'll do yet---have to think on this awhile-also roxie sleeps on furniture-we allow it-my brother lives with my mom and may have other thoughts on this...lots to consider-she would be alright there for 6 weeks but i dunno....
and i respect the older and wiser comment from you!!!!from all of our private talks i know you understand me pretty well!
anyhow-hugs!!!!
my mom has a houseful of too many dogs and they are more outdoor type dogs where roxie cannot just walk out a door to potty-she runs away....and there is always drama at my moms...i dunno what we'll do yet---have to think on this awhile-also roxie sleeps on furniture-we allow it-my brother lives with my mom and may have other thoughts on this...lots to consider-she would be alright there for 6 weeks but i dunno....
and i respect the older and wiser comment from you!!!!from all of our private talks i know you understand me pretty well!
anyhow-hugs!!!!
I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White
Yes, Margo, I understand your frustration. I thought maybe Laureen's suggestions were good ones, but I understand your explanations for why not ... but like she said, is there someone in California who could watch Roxie for you while you go to Hawaii and then Roxie follows later? And would Roxie pass her blood test in that time?
Or, barring that, and I know this would be hard on you, there is the option of leaving Roxie behind. I know how hard that would be ... I would hate to leave my kitties behind (and I had to do that in Montana ... I had five cats and left three behind because I knew I couldn't move with five cats and find a place to rent with five cats. So I took Kittle and Cinnamon and left the three girls ... one found a home, the other two I left at the shelter ... I cried all the way home from the shelter, it was so hard. So I know that's the solution you want to hear.)
And here is the other thing ... the house sale. Are you going whether you sell the house or not?
Or, barring that, and I know this would be hard on you, there is the option of leaving Roxie behind. I know how hard that would be ... I would hate to leave my kitties behind (and I had to do that in Montana ... I had five cats and left three behind because I knew I couldn't move with five cats and find a place to rent with five cats. So I took Kittle and Cinnamon and left the three girls ... one found a home, the other two I left at the shelter ... I cried all the way home from the shelter, it was so hard. So I know that's the solution you want to hear.)
And here is the other thing ... the house sale. Are you going whether you sell the house or not?
e-roxie will pass he rtest this time as she has had a 3 year shot just a month ago-if she doesn't pass it there is either something reallllly wrong with he ror the shot!!!!
right now, roxie is going with us....
and-yes.ouch.
right now, roxie is going with us....
and-yes.ouch.
I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White
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