IV Toradol -don't let them give it to you - it is the devil

I have read about a half a dozen posts the past few days of post ops saying there surgeons gave them or tried to give them toradol during the first few post days and others during ER visits for complications.  Please dont let them do it - it is the devil and will cause ulcers - it is a really strong NSAID and just because it is an IV, doesn't mean you are not going to get one.  Not only are you at risk for ulcer in your pouch, but you are at high risk for an ulcer in your remnant stomach making it very painful and very difficult to find and treat.  Many times by time they realize you have one, it is bleeding, perforated and needing surgery.

If you are in pain, insist on narcotics - you can refuse.  I was 2 years post op and in for surgery for a bowel obstruction and I had terrible pain and headache. I asked the nurse what she was giving me and I freaked. It was a good thing it wasn't a week later when I was readmitted unconscious and not able to refuse. Well, I refused and got IV narcotics instead and injectable migraine medications.  If you dont' bring it up, they dont' think it is that much of a danger since it is an IV but it is for us.  I had ulcers preop, so I am even higher risk now.

So, please say no to Toradol or any NSAIDS whether oral, IV, gels or injections - they all cause ulcers.

I had a strong belief in this, and yet last year, when I had my ****yx removed, I decided to do the NSAID patch as the lesser of two evils. I did just fine with it.... until my stress levels spiked, and the I had an ulcer that took six months to overcome, and now I knnow that it just isn't worthwhile to go there. One cannot predict the presence of stressors in your life. For me life was going on as normal, but then hubby was suddenly hospitalized with heart problems, and there was no way I could avoid the spike in stomach acid brought on by stress, combined with the NSAID use, and instant ulcer. I highly recommend that anyone who thinks they can get away with it just don't. It's not worth it.

And they LOVE to use that drug in the ER because it's a non narcotic.
NO Toradol! It's also really hard on your kidneys and they used to try and give it to me. One dose of that crap could have landed me on dialysis.
Always always ask what they are giving you.
Deb  T.

When I had to go to the ER my PCP made them put a red allergy band on me covering all NSAIDS.  I love my PCP.

it is in my medical records that I am allergic to all NSAIDS - it is just easier that way aftner all the times I have had to refuse them,  I know list it as an allergy and now I dont' have to explain anymore - I had ulcers preop and I am not taking any chances especially getting one in the remnant, so my surgeon was pretty clever - when I had exploratory at 9 months outs, he tacked my remnant and marked it so that if I ever needed to have anything done in my remnant, a radiologist could go in via  G tube and fluoscopy - the markers would show him exactly where it is.  We thought I might have an ulcer at 9 months out at my exploratory, so he set it up so if needed to go back to check, he wouldnt have to open me up but thankfully, he found the adhesions and twisted intestines and once repaired the pain was gone - no ulcer but if ever need it in the future = it is set up

I have had doctors and nurses tell me it isnt' an NSIAD, try as a patient to fight with them and prove them wrong.  I actually made them go online and bring me a printout of the drugs makeup along with all prescribing information - once they read it and I read it, all of a sudden they all changed there tune and they realized I really knew what I was talking about = it is both amazing and scary, how little some of the them know - you have to really watch everything they give you.
 
I literally put my hand over my IV line before I let them put anything in it and make them tell me what it is, what it is fore and why the doctor ordered it.  Then I ask if there are any potential side effects that can really adversely affect me, if I like the answer, then I let them hook it up.  I know I can be a pain but I have had too many bad reactions and I am allergic to alot of medications

If you always just list NSAIDS as an allergy, no one in their right mind will give you Toradol let alone any other NSAID.

I started doing that but the problem is that there are alot of doctors and nurse out there that insist that toradol isnt' an NSAID - that is why the last time I was there I had to insist that they look it up and get a print out for me to read and try to prove to me it wasn't an NSAID, when we both read it, I was right and they were shocked. 

It is amazing how many of the doctors and nurses have no idea that toradol is an NSAID - it is really sad and I am not the only that this has happened to, I have read many posts on here of the same thing all over the country.  I was at a well known, large teaching hospital in NYC - so it doesnt' even matter if you are at a good hospital

I was told in the hospital by doctors and nurses that it way okay to get it via IV. That having it administered intravenously was different than taking it orally.





It is frightening to think the "experts" don't know what they are talking about.





In the hospital I had surgery they have all these placards on the walls of each hospital room that explain how they "manage" pain. I had a terribly painful 2 days in the hospital and I at one point told the on call doctor that my pain was so bad I was thinking of going to another hospital to be treated. It was really insane.

that is the other problem, those that know it  is an NSAID, say it is okay because it is  IV and it doesn't go through the the stomach so we can't get an ulcer but that isnt' how it works.

When you take any NSAID, it thins the lining of your stomach lining, both your pouch and your remnant so if any increased acid touches it, you get an ulcer.  For some of us, it can be any acid, not just increased acid if we are proned to them.  Some people it just takes one dose of the IV toradol to get severe ulcers = we had one person on here who unknowingly was given IV toradol until it was too late and within a few weeks, she had multiple ulcers and they were perforated and bleeding.  If they get into the remnant it is no fun

As far as your pain = that is terrible and I think that was great that you threatened to be transfered and I wish you would have followed through with it.  No one should be in that much pain after surgery.  What I do if my surgeons aren't giving me enough because I take high dose narcotics all the time so surgeons don't know what to do with me, so I just ask for pain management from the start - prior to surgery,so this way they can give me the right amount during and immeduately post op as well and then they follow up with the proper pain box or IV pain meds for me.  I would never put up with not getting pain relief adn no one should - if you are ever in this situation again, ask for pain management and if they say no, get on your house phone or cell phone and call the patient advoctae and tell them they aren't treating your pain.