CARBS
"The whole "I can eat more during maintenance because I ate a certain way during weight loss" is a load of crap, imo. Until members are IN maintenance, they need to keep their mouths shut about what they can only GUESS on right now. "
Ok, but pause for a moment and consider... if I lose weight at 1200 calories then that is not my maintence weight. I concur that I don't know yet what my range will be, but I do know that is is not my current level of calories that is promoting weight loss.
Surgeon: Chengelis Surgery on 12/19/2011 A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!
1Mo: -21 2Mo: -16 3Mo: -12 4MO - 13 5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6 Goal in 8 months 4 days!! 6' 2'' EWL 103% Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5 150+ pounds lost
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The "amount" you eat during maintenance being considered important is a fat way of thinking, imo. Saying that is only perpetuating that type of thinking which gives the wrong message. It is not about what a person *can* eat or how much we can it, it's about making and maintaining healthy choices during weigh loss and turning those healthy choices into healthy habits during maintenance.
IMO, I don't consider you luckier than me for getting to eat more. I consider us both lucky for making the awesome choice of having WLS.
BTW, I eat 900-1100 calories a day (I can easily go up to 1200 a day, but I find I do better at the range I mentioned), over 100 grams of protein and under 30 grams of carbs. I'm 5'2". I do high-intensity workouts 5 days a week. I'm 41.
That's what works for me, which is the whole point of my posts.
OP - do what's right for you.
VSG 10/18/11 If you don't like the road you're walking, start paving another one.-Dolly Parton
Well thank you all for the feed back very intresting, well see how it all goes and wil lre post in a month 
Surgeon: Chengelis Surgery on 12/19/2011 A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!
1Mo: -21 2Mo: -16 3Mo: -12 4MO - 13 5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6 Goal in 8 months 4 days!! 6' 2'' EWL 103% Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5 150+ pounds lost
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What works for me:
DAILY MEASURING/WEIGHING and LOGGING EVERYTHING I PUT IN MY MOUTH.
(yes, I wanted that in caps.. it's just that important, to me.)
During loss phase: 600-800 cals.. most of it around 700-750cals a day
Carbs around 20g, my plan if broken down was the 40g max a day type..
Protein, at least 70g a day
I'm 5'7" and active, but not a regular gym rat by any means and have no intentions on becoming one.
I'm trying to shift my last 5 or so vanity lbs after hitting my goal back in April. I am still in the 800-1000 range (some days as high as 1400-1500, but usually around 900.. averaged for the week- prob about 1200/day average) and my carbs are routinely still under 40g, but I get a lot more fiber now, and variety and more protein as I'm regularly at over 100g a day. I am generally still losing at a slow rate, in my normal pattern of drop, hold, gain, drop lower. First step, analyze where you actually are now, and make adjustments from there.. You were just recently asking how many carbs/protein you should be getting.. have you been tracking regularly up to this point, or guessing your range?
A formerly MO woman like yourself at 5' tall, I'd venture to guess- 1000cal a day is darn close to maintenance.. add to that if you are not really really accurately tracking your intake.. you are likely taking in more than you think..
Workouts are great, for mental health, general well-being etc.. for weight loss- that really comes down to diet. Unless you are training at an athlete level (Zumba or elliptical 40mins 3x a week is not what I'm talking about.. that's being "active") the diet is the what drives the loss, and for many- the maintenance.
HT:writes
Ok, but pause for a moment and consider... if I lose weight at 1200 calories then that is not my maintence weight. I concur that I don't know yet what my range will be, but I do know that is is not my current level of calories that is promoting weight loss.
Not always the case..... Many people creep very slow to goal weight and find that their WL intake and their goal weight meet at their maintenance point.
Variables such as inconsistent activity levels with fixed amounts of food intake, medical conditions.....all make this an unknown.......
Let's just put it this way........... Weight Loss Phase is far easier than maintenance for most.....
frisco
SW 338lbs. GW 175lbs. Goal in 11 months. CW 148lbs. WL 190lbs.
" To eat is a necessity, but to eat intelligently is an art "
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@Frisco- If I am losing I am not at a maintence point, because if I wasn't losing then I would be at a maintenence point. I do get the gist of your post in that if you creep slowly in the last few pounds then you are much closer to your maintence level then say somebody like Ryan who rocketed to goal. Losing 10 pounds a month is not a maintenence level by any definition.
Surgeon: Chengelis Surgery on 12/19/2011 A little less carb eating compared to my weight loss phase loose sleever here!
1Mo: -21 2Mo: -16 3Mo: -12 4MO - 13 5MO: -11 6MO: -10 7MO: -10.3 8MO: -6 Goal in 8 months 4 days!! 6' 2'' EWL 103% Starting size 28 or 4x (tight) now size 12 or large, shoe size 12 w to 10.5 150+ pounds lost
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Post Date: 8/7/12 1:20 pm
HT is also 6'2'' with a admittedly larger sleeve.....her "theory" seems to work just fine for her......but she hasn't lost all the weight yet nor attempted maintenance. Increasing calories is easy.....pulling back is much harder !!!!
Your situation is that you are not losing weight on your current plan...... try what your Nut suggests....it's either gonna work or not.
My point is that HT tries to justify a higher caloric/carb intake which seems to work for her......but she is 6'2'' and has a 6 day a week exercise program. For most "Woman" 6''-12'' shorter..... those numbers she promotes are going to be harder.
With her height and her exercise routine.....she is probably very close to the same or below net net as a 5'7'' woman on a 600-800 plan with moderate activity.
Jimbo.... a 6'2'' male lost 350lbs. in 2 years........ following most your responses here.
Oh.... and it's not a "Frisco Plan" it's the most common and most successful VSG plan out there used by many Bariatric Programs.
Bottom line...... do what yah gotta do to lose the weight and maintain...... you eat 2000cals a day and lose the weight..... YOU WIN !!!!
Lose the weight first...... than get experimental in maintenance to find your tolerances.
SW 338lbs. GW 175lbs. Goal in 11 months. CW 148lbs. WL 190lbs.
" To eat is a necessity, but to eat intelligently is an art "
VSG Maintenance Group Forum
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/VSGM/discussion/
CAFE FRISCO at LapSF.com
Dr. Paul Cirangle
Nutritionally Balanced???
frisco
SW 338lbs. GW 175lbs. Goal in 11 months. CW 148lbs. WL 190lbs.
" To eat is a necessity, but to eat intelligently is an art "
VSG Maintenance Group Forum
http://www.obesityhelp.com/group/VSGM/discussion/
CAFE FRISCO at LapSF.com
Dr. Paul Cirangle
