Fats in our diet.
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on 6/14/11 8:19 pm
on 6/14/11 8:19 pm
Its important to get some essential fat in Karin - flaxseed oil and evening primrose oil capsules have two different fats that are necessary for healing and cell regeneration . I take both of these every morning without fail. If I didn't take them I would definitley crave fat .
After this , I cook and bake without oil (stirfry in chicken broth , bake my breaded items etc ) ... but I do eat the occasional slice of avocado ... i occasionally eat out so my diet is not entirely fat free just very lowfat . ( less than 30 grams of fat a day i would say )
It really helped me drop all my excess weight super fast ( first 5 months post ) and ive successfully kept it off for two years without dieting . For what its worth I eat a lot of food ..often .... and dont have to watch portion sizes or count carbs particularly . I personally love eating what I want to and having the freedom to eat baked goods ..
Im still a size zero- four and dont have to exercise to maintain 126 lbs on my home scale ( its a little more on my doctors and husbands ...but its been the same total for a year and a half ) If I exercise I think I can go a little further down and maintain a really camera- ready weight .
Another plus for me is that my Aic count is low normal now , my cholesterol , triglycerides and blood pressure are all great and I have a ton of energy .
For me personally when I eat nuts i gain weight ... that said I LOVE peanut sauce and hot thai peanut salad dressing on my fresh garden grown salads . But I can make it with Pb 2 which is defatted peanut buttter !
After this , I cook and bake without oil (stirfry in chicken broth , bake my breaded items etc ) ... but I do eat the occasional slice of avocado ... i occasionally eat out so my diet is not entirely fat free just very lowfat . ( less than 30 grams of fat a day i would say )
It really helped me drop all my excess weight super fast ( first 5 months post ) and ive successfully kept it off for two years without dieting . For what its worth I eat a lot of food ..often .... and dont have to watch portion sizes or count carbs particularly . I personally love eating what I want to and having the freedom to eat baked goods ..
Im still a size zero- four and dont have to exercise to maintain 126 lbs on my home scale ( its a little more on my doctors and husbands ...but its been the same total for a year and a half ) If I exercise I think I can go a little further down and maintain a really camera- ready weight .
Another plus for me is that my Aic count is low normal now , my cholesterol , triglycerides and blood pressure are all great and I have a ton of energy .
For me personally when I eat nuts i gain weight ... that said I LOVE peanut sauce and hot thai peanut salad dressing on my fresh garden grown salads . But I can make it with Pb 2 which is defatted peanut buttter !
(deactivated member)
on 6/14/11 8:26 pm, edited 6/14/11 8:28 pm
on 6/14/11 8:26 pm, edited 6/14/11 8:28 pm
Yeah I wouldnt be trying to eat nuts now lol . I think Ure craving them precisely BECAUSE Ur body is losing fat and theyre a super fast way of replacing the fat into Ur fat cells lol !
its VERY easy to sabotage weight loss surgery . I know lots of people who HAVE . the foods they used are almost all fatty " slider " foods . Ice cream ( read - CREAM ) BUTTER ... ( sauces with .. BUTTER AND CREAM AND OIL) cheesecake .. or flourless cake or so called " carb- free " desserts ( read fat - fest and DEFINITELY NOT carb- free if its sweet tasting lol ! ) NUTS , peanut butter !! ( of course - commercial cookies and snack foods - what made us fat in the first place- and fast food)
Dont mean to scare U but all U have to do is walk into any OA meeting and U will meet five people at least who had WLS and regained EVERYTHING or never even lost significantly thanks to their eating habits .
The one thing I can tell U about the way I eat is that its FORGIVING - I am a food sinner EVERY day
but ( thank God ) I dont wake up wearing the Evidence ... 
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Personally ,I just don't get why anybody would want to live on a restricted diet the rest of their life . I like to cook ..and I think my way is pretty much the only way u can get to do that , eat a plateful of tasty , filling food 3 ( or more ) x a day and still lose weight .. but I COULD be wrong ...
its VERY easy to sabotage weight loss surgery . I know lots of people who HAVE . the foods they used are almost all fatty " slider " foods . Ice cream ( read - CREAM ) BUTTER ... ( sauces with .. BUTTER AND CREAM AND OIL) cheesecake .. or flourless cake or so called " carb- free " desserts ( read fat - fest and DEFINITELY NOT carb- free if its sweet tasting lol ! ) NUTS , peanut butter !! ( of course - commercial cookies and snack foods - what made us fat in the first place- and fast food)
Dont mean to scare U but all U have to do is walk into any OA meeting and U will meet five people at least who had WLS and regained EVERYTHING or never even lost significantly thanks to their eating habits .
The one thing I can tell U about the way I eat is that its FORGIVING - I am a food sinner EVERY day
but ( thank God ) I dont wake up wearing the Evidence ... . Personally ,I just don't get why anybody would want to live on a restricted diet the rest of their life . I like to cook ..and I think my way is pretty much the only way u can get to do that , eat a plateful of tasty , filling food 3 ( or more ) x a day and still lose weight .. but I COULD be wrong ...
Thanks so much for your reply, I like nuts and usually would pick at a few raw almonds so they aren't too bad as long as I don't eat handfulls of them. I usually limit myself to only 12 nuts. I have a thing about numbers. LOL
I've been watching and reading everything so carefully as I'm terrified of gaining or dumping and because I'm already a LW revision I know my window is closing very fast for any extra weightloss so I need to maxmise whatever loss I can right now. I'm terrified of sugar because I had a couple of bad days with awful pain.
Cheers from Karin (in Oz)
(deactivated member)
on 6/15/11 11:55 pm, edited 6/15/11 11:55 pm
on 6/15/11 11:55 pm, edited 6/15/11 11:55 pm
Karin (((((()))))))) I know how hard it is to change ingrained eating habits ! and the making and eating of food is such a HUGE part of our lives pre-op we cant even IMAGINE our focus evolving to anything else...
here are some great substitutes U can use in recipes
promise fat free margarine mixed with butter buds . The promise is olean which is a real fat that goes right through U .. combined with real defatted butter solids , The combination REALLY tastes exactly like butter .. even spread on bread and its 100 % Fat FREE
U can make garlic bread with it .. use it in sauces... bake with it . Just not fry ..
Dried roasted chickpeas ( NOT made with oil...look on the label .. should have under one gram offat per serving ! ) ( look in a Greek or Arab or Indian specialty store ) are an OK substitute for nuts ... but are stil somewhat fatty ( 6grams of fat a cup or so as opposed to like 80 or more for real nuts )
there is a great fatfree hummus dip U can make using beans ... that will satisfy the same cravings ... whole foods sells it ready made ( Amys fatfree hummus )
make sure U have plenty of fat free alternatives in the house like fatfree baking mixes ( Dr Oetkers organic ones are great )
the frosting mixes are 100 % fat free ( not sugar free though) . Incidentally FIND me a guy that notices fat free or sugarfree substitutions in baking lol ! They DONT ... they just like fresh baked goods ! they actually LIKE it when the baked goods are GOOD FOR them too I find
I hope our brands are the same .. but even if theyre not U can discover many interesting things just by reading EVERY label in the grocery store . ONLY BUY what is 1 gram of fat or less per serving PERIOD !! Dont worry you will have LOTS Of alternatives !!
Remember lowfat is still very HIGH fat in terms of the proportion of calories that come from fat . If youre a foodie and have ANY issues whatsoever with grazing or portion size or eating carbs .. you WILL NOT lose weight eating lowfat .. at least not past the very limited malabsorption window and you MAY not get to goal because of it .
if you eat fatfree you have a lot more GIVE ... a lot more options ... U CAN eat carbs on occasion .. and anecdotally U will probably end up at a lower setpoint .
Either way Its a new healthy way of life and once you embrace it hopefully you will finally reach goal and stay at goal forever ...
here are some great substitutes U can use in recipes
promise fat free margarine mixed with butter buds . The promise is olean which is a real fat that goes right through U .. combined with real defatted butter solids , The combination REALLY tastes exactly like butter .. even spread on bread and its 100 % Fat FREE
U can make garlic bread with it .. use it in sauces... bake with it . Just not fry ..
Dried roasted chickpeas ( NOT made with oil...look on the label .. should have under one gram offat per serving ! ) ( look in a Greek or Arab or Indian specialty store ) are an OK substitute for nuts ... but are stil somewhat fatty ( 6grams of fat a cup or so as opposed to like 80 or more for real nuts )
there is a great fatfree hummus dip U can make using beans ... that will satisfy the same cravings ... whole foods sells it ready made ( Amys fatfree hummus )
make sure U have plenty of fat free alternatives in the house like fatfree baking mixes ( Dr Oetkers organic ones are great )
the frosting mixes are 100 % fat free ( not sugar free though) . Incidentally FIND me a guy that notices fat free or sugarfree substitutions in baking lol ! They DONT ... they just like fresh baked goods ! they actually LIKE it when the baked goods are GOOD FOR them too I find
I hope our brands are the same .. but even if theyre not U can discover many interesting things just by reading EVERY label in the grocery store . ONLY BUY what is 1 gram of fat or less per serving PERIOD !! Dont worry you will have LOTS Of alternatives !!
Remember lowfat is still very HIGH fat in terms of the proportion of calories that come from fat . If youre a foodie and have ANY issues whatsoever with grazing or portion size or eating carbs .. you WILL NOT lose weight eating lowfat .. at least not past the very limited malabsorption window and you MAY not get to goal because of it .
if you eat fatfree you have a lot more GIVE ... a lot more options ... U CAN eat carbs on occasion .. and anecdotally U will probably end up at a lower setpoint .
Either way Its a new healthy way of life and once you embrace it hopefully you will finally reach goal and stay at goal forever ...
Olean, no way. I had it once and it was worse than dumping.
I am actually different than the rest of you, I am now on a high fat, high calorie diet in the attempts to gain weight which I can't seem to do. I don't eat like this - I will definitely lose more weight which I definitely can't afford to do. I have a little flab on my stomach which is part flab and part skin but the rest of me is too thin. I don't have an ounce of flab anywhere else. When I was in the hospital, they had a terrible time getting IV's because I was all skin and bones. A few months ago I had to have a mediport removed and the surgeon had a terrible time and it was painful for me even though it was done with a local because there was no fat at all the area of my chest. He had to keep pulling on the skin to get it out and it took a long time, it wasn't easy. I really want to have another one put in but after that experience, I am having second thoughts. So for now, when I get IV's, I am suffering with periferal access and my veins stink - and also with no flesh, the IV's are much more painful.
I wish I could come up with more ways to gain weight but I Feel like I eat and eat and eat and nothing. If I eat too much, I get terrible diarhea.
I am actually different than the rest of you, I am now on a high fat, high calorie diet in the attempts to gain weight which I can't seem to do. I don't eat like this - I will definitely lose more weight which I definitely can't afford to do. I have a little flab on my stomach which is part flab and part skin but the rest of me is too thin. I don't have an ounce of flab anywhere else. When I was in the hospital, they had a terrible time getting IV's because I was all skin and bones. A few months ago I had to have a mediport removed and the surgeon had a terrible time and it was painful for me even though it was done with a local because there was no fat at all the area of my chest. He had to keep pulling on the skin to get it out and it took a long time, it wasn't easy. I really want to have another one put in but after that experience, I am having second thoughts. So for now, when I get IV's, I am suffering with periferal access and my veins stink - and also with no flesh, the IV's are much more painful.
I wish I could come up with more ways to gain weight but I Feel like I eat and eat and eat and nothing. If I eat too much, I get terrible diarhea.
Personally ,I just don't get why anybody would want to live on a restricted diet the rest of their life . I like to cook ..and I think my way is pretty much the only way u can get to do that , eat a plateful of tasty , filling food 3 ( or more ) x a day and still lose weight .. but I COULD be wrong ...
EXACTLY, which is why I use real butter (nonsalted), half and half full fat in my coffee, I roast veggies in olive oil and I simply do NOT count fat at all...
How do food companies replace trans fats? There are several choices when replacing trans fats, depending on the desired property. For example, different oils can be used to achieve different smoking points and/or food consistencies.
Most commonly, manufacturers look to replace hydrogenated oils with natural tropical or nontropical oils, or by manipulating fats through chemical or enzymatic modification (interesterification).
Interesterified fats are believed by some to be as “bad" as trans fats, exerting similar effects on lipid and blood glucose metabolism. Studies are now ongoing to validate or refute this belief.
I prefer to stay as natural in what I cook and eat as possible. Whole milk is natural (not how it's processed to stay safe but these days, getting milk straight from the cow is very difficult), butter, etc...if I want something like ice cream, I eat the real stuff as it has a MUCH lower impact on my blood sugars than the low fat/no sugar kind. I do keep my fat intake to about 30-40 grams a day but considering I now only absorb 20%, that's actually quite a LOW amount.
I did not have my surgery to help me lose weight altho that is a pleasant side effect, I did it to get myself healthy and off meds. I am not going into the rest of my life on a diet. I did that for the last 45 years and all it got me was fat and then fatter. I'm not dieting. The ONLY reason I am logging my food now is to get an idea of what I eat and how it breaks down into protein, fat and carbs. If how I eat now is within the guidelines I know I need, then calories can go hang. My general rule FOR ME is 90-120 grams of protein, 30-40 grams of fat, and about 90-100 grams of carbs. IF I cut anything it will be the carbs since everything except for meats and fats turn into sugar in the body. http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/yrdd/
If I cut carbs/sugar, then the only way to make food taste good is fat.
To replace the oil in muffins, applesauce is the usual replacement but what IS applesauce but carbs and sugar. Oil goes thru me, Carbs/Sugar tends to hang around and add friends.
Liz
EXACTLY, which is why I use real butter (nonsalted), half and half full fat in my coffee, I roast veggies in olive oil and I simply do NOT count fat at all...
How do food companies replace trans fats? There are several choices when replacing trans fats, depending on the desired property. For example, different oils can be used to achieve different smoking points and/or food consistencies.
Most commonly, manufacturers look to replace hydrogenated oils with natural tropical or nontropical oils, or by manipulating fats through chemical or enzymatic modification (interesterification).
Interesterified fats are believed by some to be as “bad" as trans fats, exerting similar effects on lipid and blood glucose metabolism. Studies are now ongoing to validate or refute this belief.
I prefer to stay as natural in what I cook and eat as possible. Whole milk is natural (not how it's processed to stay safe but these days, getting milk straight from the cow is very difficult), butter, etc...if I want something like ice cream, I eat the real stuff as it has a MUCH lower impact on my blood sugars than the low fat/no sugar kind. I do keep my fat intake to about 30-40 grams a day but considering I now only absorb 20%, that's actually quite a LOW amount.
I did not have my surgery to help me lose weight altho that is a pleasant side effect, I did it to get myself healthy and off meds. I am not going into the rest of my life on a diet. I did that for the last 45 years and all it got me was fat and then fatter. I'm not dieting. The ONLY reason I am logging my food now is to get an idea of what I eat and how it breaks down into protein, fat and carbs. If how I eat now is within the guidelines I know I need, then calories can go hang. My general rule FOR ME is 90-120 grams of protein, 30-40 grams of fat, and about 90-100 grams of carbs. IF I cut anything it will be the carbs since everything except for meats and fats turn into sugar in the body. http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/yrdd/
If I cut carbs/sugar, then the only way to make food taste good is fat.
To replace the oil in muffins, applesauce is the usual replacement but what IS applesauce but carbs and sugar. Oil goes thru me, Carbs/Sugar tends to hang around and add friends.
Liz
Duodenal Switch (Lap) 01-24-11 | Surgeon: Stephen Boyce | High weight: 250 in 2002 | Surgery weight: 203 | Lowest weight: 121 | Current weight: 135 | Goal weight: 135
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