Post RNY Bodybuilding Eating Plan

I am struggling to find guidance for post gastric bypass eating plans for individuals wanting to get lean and build muscle. I have found guidance for post bariatric eating and guidance for bodybuilding (both online and through dietitians), but not the intersection of the two. Anyone know of a resource to do so? 

Have you tried Reddit?  There are a lot of communities that cross post and co-mingle over there.  Might only find anecdotal stuff, but it may point you in the right direction.

If anyone does go on reddit, be prepared for some nasty comments if you share that you've had WLS.  Like death threats and such.  There is a lot of hatred there against people with weight issues, so brace yourself.

I'm an avid weight lifter. I havent had surgery, but am working on seeing if its the best fit for me.

I googled the other day "gastric bypass bodybuilding" and found this guys page

http://www.theweightstopsnow.com

He has some meal plans, not sure if theyre catered to "normal" people or bariatric patients

http://www.theweightstopsnow.com/apps/webstore/

Hope this helps :) He has a pretty great story from what I read on his site and the bodybuilding page

Can you let me know if you find anything?  I was weight lifting pre-op and would like to get back into it post-op.  I have difficulty finding anything in the way of post-op nutrition for any type of sport or exercise.

Weight lifting while you are rapidly dropping weight is great -- after about 8 weeks postop. You need to heal first, obviously.

BUT. You can NOT build muscle while on a calorie deficit. You can't. You can build strength, lots of it, but it isn't the same as adding new muscle.

Dropping large amounts of weight means burning fat, but you also LOSE lean body mass, including muscle. Lifting HEAVY weights and eating sufficient protein ensures you will maximize fat loss, and minimize loss of lean body mass.

The only way to ADD muscle is to eat excess calories, which means you will also be adding fat. The bodybuilding community is intimately aware of this process, and refer to it as cutting and bulking. They bulk -- lift like crazy, eat tons, and build new muscle -- and fat. Then they cut -- cut  calories, lose the fat, but also some of the muscle they added. Then repeat the cycle. In the end, it's 2 steps forward, 1 step back.

But you can't lose massive amounts of weight and add muscle. You do want to lift heavy to preserve as much muscle as you can. Lifting heavy means you can only do 8 to 12 repetitions, max.

Many people losing lots of weight who lift think they are adding muscle, but they aren't. You can lift incrementally heavier weights if you work hard. But again, increased strength is not adding muscle, it's just making existing muscles stronger.

We are no different in these regards from anyone else. No special bodybuilding bariatric eating plan. It's not possible. Some people eat more, lift, and hope to defy medical laws. They never lose the weight they want, because they were eating too much to "fuel their workouts."

Keep your calories as low as you can. Make as many of those calories protein as you possibly can. Get the weight off. Lift heavy to preserve lean body mass. You can worry about building muscle when you reach your goal weight.

Me too! It is so hard to find anything!

Hello all,

My name is Adam and I see that my website has been shared on this thread.  I appreciate the support!  I am a certified weight loss specialist and have several clients both pre/post WLS as well as "normal" people who do not have to undergo such rigorous diet and exercise as we do in the WLS world.  I urge any of you that are considering taking your nutrition or fitness endeavors to the next level to check out my client testimonials page.  You certainly don't need to choose ME to work with, but 99% of the information online regarding fitness, dieting and WLS is pure garbage.  My best advice is ASK ASK ASK!  If you find a certified trainer, ask as many questions as you can and get references!!!  CERTIFIED DOESNT MEAN QUALIFIED!

My site, TheWeightStopsNow.com has lots of free information as well as more info on what programs I offer.  One thing I do want to address is the whole idea of not being able to build muscle while in a caloric deficit.  This is false!  I and my clients are proof positive you can absolutely reach optimal levels of hypertrophy, both sarcoplasmic and myfibrillar, by way of proper nutrient timing and partitioning with a solid exercise program.  I agree, protein synthesis, gluconeogenesis, meal frequency and timing and even Ghrelin and leptin levels are all variables that need to be accounted for, but it is absolutely false to say that you cannot build lean muscle tissue without being in a large caloric surplus...it's just incorrect. 

I welcome any comments or questions and if I can be of any assistance to any of you, feel free to message me on my site.

Thanks so much and God Bless,

Adam "The Transformer" Upton