Why do some women
RNY on 10/30/12
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on 3/31/12 2:41 am
on 3/31/12 2:41 am
OH i KNOW the answer to that one ! SOME women ( myself included ) have goten such a mixed reception from ladies overthe years ( some catty comments , some subtle barbs etc) .. that we PREFER relating to the male sex who are pretty straightforward and just plain appreciative ...
In my case my " reticence " towards the woman means I hold her in higher respect - I'm trying to draw her out to discover common ground and treading VERY ightly like I would with an extremely powerful man .
I think ... to me ... that womens opinions actually matter MORE .
I was also brought up in a culture where husbands and wives go seprate ways in a social situation , mingle as individuals and come together periodically. Husbands and wives who CLING to each other are looked down upon.
In my case my " reticence " towards the woman means I hold her in higher respect - I'm trying to draw her out to discover common ground and treading VERY ightly like I would with an extremely powerful man .
I think ... to me ... that womens opinions actually matter MORE .
I was also brought up in a culture where husbands and wives go seprate ways in a social situation , mingle as individuals and come together periodically. Husbands and wives who CLING to each other are looked down upon.
I've never done that deliberately, and not when the partner is speaking relevantly & on topic, but...
Most of my friends are men, married, single, gay, straight - all manner of men. And some of them date (or marry) really insecure women (and men). If the guy & I share an interest that the girlfriend has already dismissed, then yes, we will ignore her attempts at derailing the conversation for the moment that we are speaking on that topic. I will not allow that conversation to dominate the whole time, that would be really rude, but I also will not refrain from discussing our common interests. it takes a minute to discuss an F1 race or a blog we both read...if s/he can't contain jealousy for a minute...
When the partner's conversation is relevant & on topic I think some responsibility also lies with the husband - to bring his wife into the conversation and show that he respects her opinions. I've given guys **** for not doing that.
I am NOT saying or implying this is what happened in the OP's case, by the way...
Most of my friends are men, married, single, gay, straight - all manner of men. And some of them date (or marry) really insecure women (and men). If the guy & I share an interest that the girlfriend has already dismissed, then yes, we will ignore her attempts at derailing the conversation for the moment that we are speaking on that topic. I will not allow that conversation to dominate the whole time, that would be really rude, but I also will not refrain from discussing our common interests. it takes a minute to discuss an F1 race or a blog we both read...if s/he can't contain jealousy for a minute...
When the partner's conversation is relevant & on topic I think some responsibility also lies with the husband - to bring his wife into the conversation and show that he respects her opinions. I've given guys **** for not doing that.
I am NOT saying or implying this is what happened in the OP's case, by the way...
I have a lot of questions about why some people do what they do, and the longer I'm around the more questions I have.
If I am the woman standing by, I'll just address a question to my husband, or he will include me. Most of the time I don't care because my marriage is clear and strong. My husband has a couple of women friends, and I have a couple of men friends. I'm also good friends with my ex and my husband was with his ex when she was still alive.
I honor the trust we have in each other almost more than I do our love. Pretty cool.
If I am the woman standing by, I'll just address a question to my husband, or he will include me. Most of the time I don't care because my marriage is clear and strong. My husband has a couple of women friends, and I have a couple of men friends. I'm also good friends with my ex and my husband was with his ex when she was still alive.
I honor the trust we have in each other almost more than I do our love. Pretty cool.
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on 3/31/12 11:53 pm, edited 3/31/12 11:54 pm
on 3/31/12 11:53 pm, edited 3/31/12 11:54 pm
I like that response Anne .. especially the part about honoring the trust . The COOLEST thing about my marriage is that I AM trusted ( but not by my FIL GRR
)
But you know what .. he can go smoke a rope lol...
I DO appreciate being able to be an actor , go to media related parties in the necessary mini skirt and ten inch heels and not being HOUNDED or BOTHERED or INSULTED when i get home at 4 am .
I think TRUST goes a long way . I LOVE the fact that my husband trusts me ( and by the way i act 110 % trustWORTHY as a result )
I am NOT happy that I am seemingly being left to carry the fniancial reins though .
do men feel they have the RIGHT to do that ( sit back and watch us work ourselves to death ) just because we women are BEAUTIFUL ?!!
Interestingly enough , my MOTHER did he same thing in HER marrriage ... ( traded off being the breadwinner for" independence " ie a man not being a total pain in the ass ...

But you know what .. he can go smoke a rope lol...
I DO appreciate being able to be an actor , go to media related parties in the necessary mini skirt and ten inch heels and not being HOUNDED or BOTHERED or INSULTED when i get home at 4 am .
I think TRUST goes a long way . I LOVE the fact that my husband trusts me ( and by the way i act 110 % trustWORTHY as a result )
I am NOT happy that I am seemingly being left to carry the fniancial reins though .
do men feel they have the RIGHT to do that ( sit back and watch us work ourselves to death ) just because we women are BEAUTIFUL ?!!

Interestingly enough , my MOTHER did he same thing in HER marrriage ... ( traded off being the breadwinner for" independence " ie a man not being a total pain in the ass ...
I've had it happen. But My husband will comment on it.
It used to happen with this girl who had a crush on him at his old work...even going so far as to ask him out, knowing he was engaged!
Of course he said he'd bring me along!
She did this at the Christmas party. He flat out told her she was being rude by putting her back to me.

Of course he said he'd bring me along!
She did this at the Christmas party. He flat out told her she was being rude by putting her back to me.