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Mom2JBboys
on 1/28/19 6:59 pm - Cohoes, NY
Topic: RE: Rose Procedure or other Endoscopic Revision

That is correct liquid diet 47 days the. Purée 14 days then start introducing foods. This is how my Dr's work I am not sore of this is the norm but in addition to the stitches they cordarize the tissue to be sore scar tissue is created to keep the stitches in place so needs a good long time to heal properly.

msromagnola
on 1/28/19 5:54 pm
Topic: RE: Rose Procedure or other Endoscopic Revision
  • Am I reading correctly? A liquid diet for 47 days?!
    

MSROMAGNOLA
Mom2JBboys
on 1/28/19 1:51 pm - Cohoes, NY
Topic: RE: Rose Procedure or other Endoscopic Revision

msromagnola, I had the procedure this past Thursday, mild sore throat is really the only physical discomfort related to the procedure. Diet prior to the overstitch was not changed, I had to stop eating and drinking midnight the night before (no prep). The post diet is rough, I will not lie- day one is nothing by mouth, day 2 is clear liquids only at a goal rate of 2oz per hour. Day 3-47! Liquid diet consisting of non caloric drinks and protein shakes with goal of 60-70 gm of protein daily. Drinking no more than 8oz per hour. After day 47 it progresses to a purée diet for 2 weeks then slowly progress to normal diet of course going back to all the basics of post RNY diet. I am trying to stay focused on swing it as a jump start and allowing the stitches to heal and form the scar tissue necessary to keep everything tightened up. There is no physical hunger but the head hunger is the battle. Hope this is helpful.

msromagnola
on 1/28/19 10:25 am
Topic: RE: Rose Procedure or other Endoscopic Revision

Mom2JBboys - can you share the experience with me, including the diet prior to and after?

    

MSROMAGNOLA
Kathy S.
on 1/28/19 10:00 am - InTheBurbs, XX
RNY on 08/29/04 with
Topic: RE: RNY Revisition (Band or RNY) OPEN?
I maintained 118-125 for over 10 years after losing 200 pounds. Due to a personal tragedy I gained and hit the 190 mark a year ago. After several starts it finally clicked and I am back to goal losing 70 pounds of regain. If there is not a medical reason for your regain..... Here are some steps that helped me and I hope they will help you too! You may have several starts and stops but don't give up, don't beat yourself up. IT WILL CLICK!!! Our tool works if we work the tool and get back to the basics.

Planning/Preparing

Remember when we were preparing for surgery? How many meetings, classes and such did we attend? We were told the more prepared we were the better our chances were for success. And they were right. Go through the house, car and work place and get rid of trigger foods. Stock up on foods that will keep you on track. I removed every bad carb/sugar temptation and replaced it with lots of protein, veggies, grains and fruits.

Journaling

Get back to journaling. This will help you identify when you feel like eating, stress factors and any triggers in your life. Once you identify these factors, this will help you put tools in place to keep you from eating. It became clear I was not taking time for me anymore. I worked my day job and then spent the rest of my time caring for my husband. It was easy to reach for fast, prepackaged food. Since I purged my home I have to eat clean as there are no other options LOL

Use a tool to track you're eating and exercise like Getting Started with Health Tracker. Once I started to track ever bite and drink it became clear why I had gained.

Goals/Rewards

Make a list of goals for yourself. Make them realistic and small. Some of mine were move more, purge all junk from my home, eat more protein. If you didn't make a Weight Loss Surgery bucket list when you first had surgery do it now. GREAT reminder of all the things you can enjoy in life after losing weight.

Food

In general, a long term post-weight loss surgery eating plan includes foods that are high in protein, and low in fat?, calories, and sugar. Important, vitamins and minerals are provided as supplements. (if you had a different surgery adjust this to your food plan).

Water

Water is our Best Friend. I have to say I never went back to pop or any bad drinks, however I was drinking tea like crazy. What is wrong with drinking tea? I was either using sugar or 3 equals and 3 sweet n lows per 32 ounce glass. I found once I started carrying one of the metal bottles of water to keep it cold I drank water all day.

MOVE!

I can't say enough about how key this was for me. The reason I kept my weight off for almost 10 years was no matter what, I kept moving. If I could not go to the gym I would walk. Grab a cart and walk all the isles at your local box store. I loved Zumba, bootcamp workouts, lifting weights. When I stopped, the weight started coming back. So for me I am starting slow to avoid injury by walking and using some of the workouts on my Demand TV. Find something you love to do and it won't feel like a pain in the *** to do daily.

Support

If it's an option "run" don't walk to a support group. Come here on OH daily for support and participate in one of the food threads. It helps you be accountable and also great ideas for food prep.

Keep me posted on how you are doing.

HW:330 - GW:150 - MW:118-125

RW:190 - CW:130

Kathy S.
on 1/28/19 8:42 am - InTheBurbs, XX
RNY on 08/29/04 with
Topic: RE: Rose Procedure or other Endoscopic Revision

Hi NJRobyn

Welcome to OH. PM me where in NJ you are and I would be glad to help you find a surgeon.

I maintained 118-125 for over 10 years after losing 200 pounds. Due to a personal tragedy I gained and hit the 190 mark a year ago. After several starts it finally clicked and I am back to goal losing 70 pounds of regain. Here are some steps that helped me and I hope they will help you too! You may have several starts and stops but don't give up, don't beat yourself up. IT WILL CLICK!!! Our tool works if we work the tool and get back to the basics.

Planning/Preparing

Remember when we were preparing for surgery? How many meetings, classes and such did we attend? We were told the more prepared we were the better our chances were for success. And they were right. Go through the house, car and work place and get rid of trigger foods. Stock up on foods that will keep you on track. I removed every bad carb/sugar temptation and replaced it with lots of protein, veggies, grains and fruits.

Journaling

Get back to journaling. This will help you identify when you feel like eating, stress factors and any triggers in your life. Once you identify these factors, this will help you put tools in place to keep you from eating. It became clear I was not taking time for me anymore. I worked my day job and then spent the rest of my time caring for my husband. It was easy to reach for fast, prepackaged food. Since I purged my home I have to eat clean as there are no other options LOL

Use a tool to track you're eating and exercise like Getting Started with Health Tracker. Once I started to track ever bite and drink it became clear why I had gained.

Goals/Rewards

Make a list of goals for yourself. Make them realistic and small. Some of mine were move more, purge all junk from my home, eat more protein. If you didn't make a Weight Loss Surgery bucket list when you first had surgery do it now. GREAT reminder of all the things you can enjoy in life after losing weight.

Food

In general, a long term post-weight loss surgery eating plan includes foods that are high in protein, and low in fat?, calories, and sugar. Important, vitamins and minerals are provided as supplements. (if you had a different surgery adjust this to your food plan).

Water

Water is our Best Friend. I have to say I never went back to pop or any bad drinks, however I was drinking tea like crazy. What is wrong with drinking tea? I was either using sugar or 3 equals and 3 sweet n lows per 32 ounce glass. I found once I started carrying one of the metal bottles of water to keep it cold I drank water all day.

MOVE!

I can't say enough about how key this was for me. The reason I kept my weight off for almost 10 years was no matter what, I kept moving. If I could not go to the gym I would walk. Grab a cart and walk all the isles at your local box store. I loved Zumba, bootcamp workouts, lifting weights. When I stopped, the weight started coming back. So for me I am starting slow to avoid injury by walking and using some of the workouts on my Demand TV. Find something you love to do and it won't feel like a pain in the *** to do daily.

Support

If it's an option "run" don't walk to a support group. Come here on OH daily for support and participate in one of the food threads. It helps you be accountable and also great ideas for food prep.

Keep me posted on how you are doing.

HW:330 - GW:150 - MW:118-125

RW:190 - CW:130

Lilac8Star
on 1/27/19 6:32 pm
Topic: RE: Rose Procedure or other Endoscopic Revision

I agree, I just had it done after weight gain from gastric bypass (12 years). I had I done with John Hopkins. I literally felt no different, I think its another money grab for surgeons, It's sad but it seems like there just aren't many good options for revisions.

PrivateCitizen
on 1/27/19 6:31 pm
Topic: RE: RNY Revisition (Band or RNY) OPEN?

Hi I have not had bariatric, but did have a vertical 8" open emergency surgery to basically save my life from an abdominal blockage.

I was curious on your question and a 'quick' key word search brought this up...so looks like it could be both options for revisions. they might be a starting point for developing more questions of your own to ask, I am sure there are many other pages that will pop up on this topic online..

http://www.jacksonhealth.org/bariatric-excellence-revisional -surgery.asp

Good luck! Open surgery is recoverable, just takes lots more time, bending over is impossible for a while, getting up, rolling over in bed, lifting your foot over 2-4" step...all are more difficult, you don't realize how much your 'core' is needed for everything. And maintaining 'sterile' or sanity care of the incision dressings are critical once sent home!

drea29
on 1/27/19 1:50 pm
Topic: RE: Revision from Sleeve to By-Pass

i am 3 months post op Sleeve to Bypass. I don't have diabetes so I can't speak to that. My revision was for the GERD. I put the surgery off for a year due to a family illness that needed my immediate attention. I was taking 4 PPI a day for the GERD. I am still taking 2 protonix. My surgeon is surprised as he anticipated me being off all PPI meds after 2 months. It has improved as I am no longer coughing and choking at night. I still have burning in the morning even with taking meds before bed. I am hoping thing improve. I am eating vey bland food. No caffeine.

My recovery was suppose to be 2 weeks. I was out of work for 2 months. I had some complications that I not common. I am also 63 and generally take longer to heal than most.

I was 6 1/2 years post op when I had the revision I had some regain and have lost 25 pounds. I wouldn't be concerned about losing too much weight. It is very different then an original bypass surgery. I lost 133 pounds with the VSG in 15 months.

The one thing that is different is I am developing food intolerances. Maybe not intolerance but changes in what I like to eat. I can't eat oatmeal, avocados or spinach, which were stables of my diet. This morning I made an egg with some broccoli and had to push away the broccoli. These I foods I loved before. I have a pretty limited diet due to another medical issue so this makes me a bit concerned.

I wish you all the best and hope the revision will resolve your diabetes issue.

    

rachelo
on 1/27/19 7:47 am
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