White Dove’s Posts

White Dove
on 12/21/14 6:57 am
Topic: RE: Realistic Goals

It is quite doable.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/21/14 3:13 am
Topic: RE: dreams and guilt

Those dreams are normal.  Once I was back to eating food again, they went away.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/21/14 3:05 am
Topic: RE: Question, PCP and Labs

I still see my surgeon and his nutritionist once a year and their clinic orders my lab work.  I like keeping in touch with them.  They attend national conventions and conferences and keep me up to date on things that they have learned.

My PCP did have a lot of patients who gained back their weight after surgery.  He warned me about that and I am glad that he did.  My surgeon also warned about the possibility of regain and is happy that I am still at my goal weight.  My PCP would order labs if I asked, and does take care of my labs for thyroid.

Interrupting the lab work is pretty simple.  They have a website where test results are posted and look at that before I have my appointment.  They have my numbers and the normal ranges and it does not have a degree in advanced math to see if a number is out of normal range.  The site also has the older results and you can look at each value on a graph to see any trends.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/20/14 11:14 pm
Topic: RE: Shopping help please!!

All department stores carry size 16.  Never walk into Lane Bryant (I used to call it Lame Giant) again.  I go to JC Penney, Sears, Kohls, Macys, and Dillards.  Ask a salesperson for help finding things that fit you well and that you like.  You are lucky to have a great husband who is willing to take you shopping.  Ask him for advise on what he thinks looks good on you when you shop. 

When I was transforming my looks, I subscribed to a service that analyzes your body and coloring and then sends you a weekly list of clothes that will look good on you.  I only bought things that they recommended and built a great wardrobe that still works for me today. 

People tell me that I always look in style and pulled together.  I learned from this site http://missussmartypants.com/

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/20/14 11:01 pm
Topic: RE: I want a bypass but family says sleeve HELP!

Get the surgery that is right for you.  With diabetes, get RNY.  The longer you put it off, the less chance that your diabetes will go into remission.  Let your family do what they want, but don't let them talk you out of your RNY. 

You are the one who will live with the surgery and will be so unhappy if the diabetes does not go into remission with the sleeve.  You will always wonder if the RNY would have worked for you.  Don't do that to yourself. 

I worried about how I would feel with my intestines rerouted.  After surgery I realized that I never knew how my intestines were routed before and did not know any difference when they were changed.

I was seven years out in October, have lost all the excess weight and kept it off.  I have had no complications or side effects.

The sleeve is the popular choice now for people doing internet research.  It is popular because it is cheaper an easier for the doctors to do.  With the sleeve you only lose weight by cutting calories.  With RNY you eat and the food is not all absorbed.  That advantage lasts for about two years and gives you an extra boost of weight loss while you learn how to eat properly to maintain your weight loss for life. 

Nobody dies from malnourishment after RNY.  The body stops losing when it is ready.  In truth, the last 10 pounds or so can be just as hard with RNY as it is with Weigh****chers

 

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/20/14 10:48 pm
Topic: RE: In puree stage, don't want much food

I could not stand the texture of pureed foods and just skipped that stage.  I got plenty of nourishment from my protein shakes.  I added back foods at about four weeks out and started with things like ricotta, tuna, ham and split pea soup (finely diced ham) and turkey chili.  I tried pureeing those items and just did not want to eat it, so I would have a shake instead.

I have an attitude that I will probably have to consume pureed chili when they put me in a nursing home, but did not hurt myself at all by not eating it after surgery.

 

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/19/14 9:11 am
Topic: RE: When should I weigh myself?

Before surgery my nurse walked me to the scale and weighed me.  After surgery, when I was able to stand up again the same nurse walked me back the same scale.  I had gained 19 pounds.  When I told my surgeon, he laughed and said, "Go home and pee it out".  It was gone a week later and then the weight loss started to happen.  I was done 20 pounds from pre-op weight a month later.

In four days you have probably lost half of what they pumped into you.  You can just weigh yourself and compare to your last pre-op weight. 

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/18/14 11:31 am
Topic: RE: Cold finger

Probably not related to surgery, sounds like damage from frostbite. 

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/18/14 5:49 am
Topic: RE: 1 pound GAIN

Bounce back happens third year after surgery.  During the first year or so after reaching goal it is easy to keep regain low.

Try this again at 30 months out and regain will be a lot more than one pound.  Malabsorption works for at least 18 months after RNY

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/16/14 5:03 am
Topic: RE: Chew and spit?

Back in the 1970's it was taught at Weigh****chers - at least the one that I attended.  Another technique was putting Comet Cleanser on a doughnut or cookie and scrubbing it well before eating.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/16/14 2:25 am
Topic: RE: Chew and spit?

Did she say anything about swallowers?

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/15/14 8:54 pm
Topic: RE: Weight Gain

If you are getting sick from normal food, it is either that something is wrong like an ulcer or stricture or you are eating too much.  Eating sugar just makes you crave more sugar.

You need to have your body checked out to be sure that there is no physical reason for your getting sick.  Then start eating tiny meals.  Eating sugar will pack the pounds on quickly, so you might have to just give that up for good.  Weigh you food and try to eat about three ounces of protein for a meal, with a few non-starchy vegetables if you have room.  If you cant finish three ounces, then eat one ounce and put or throw the rest away.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/15/14 1:20 pm
Topic: RE: My Christmas Pic

Cute

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/15/14 1:15 pm
Topic: RE: OMG! I Cheated!!.... Bad Girl!!!

Not everyone has the intelligence, tenacity and emotional fortitude to stick to their plan.  Just like in school, there are A students and F students, but mostly C students.  People are not bad because they get mediocre grades, they are usually just not gifted with the intelligence and self-discipline to do better.

You are not bad, just not a high achiever.  Post-op life is harder for people who have not made the commitment to follow the rules, to get to goal, and to stay at goal.  Gaining weight is like rolling downhill.  It is pretty effortless.  Losing weight is an uphill battle. 

Surgery is a great tool, but not a magic wand.  Keeping weight off will be a lifetime struggle.  There will always be delicious temptations.  Sticking to the task long term sounds easy, but just like any addict, drug abuser, alcoholic, or overeater success is overcoming your addictions one day at a time.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/12/14 5:42 am
Topic: RE: Bridal Lookbook! Goal and Midway

What a beautiful bride you are going to be.  They did a wonderful job of altering that dress and your waist is so small now.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/9/14 10:45 pm
Topic: RE: Three weeks post op and my weight is fluctuating

I have a Tanita scale.  I will not accept a scale that fluctuates and most of them do.  I weigh daily and trust my scale.  I have had my Tanita since 1993 and it is always perfectly accurate when I am weighed at doctors offices on their digital scales I get the same weight.  It was $50 in 1993.

Here are the top rated scales from Consumer Reports.

Taylor 7506

Tanita HS-302

Escali E-180R

Buy a scale that you trust and can depend on.  It will make a big difference now and for many years to come.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/5/14 2:30 pm, edited 12/5/14 2:35 pm
Topic: RE: Even 2000mg of calcium citrate isn't enough, apparently

Thanks Grim.  I do remember that I was one deviation below the average for a 30 year old woman.  I remember thinking. well duh, I am not a 30 year old woman.

I worried a bit about taking the Boniva, but knew my mother was taking it with no problems.  They have a plastic model at my doctor's office that shows a representation of bone with osteopenia before and after Boniva.  The before bone looks like a piece of Swiss cheese with big holes in it and the after shows those holes pretty much filled in.

I am not sorry that I did the Boniva treatment.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/5/14 11:39 am
Topic: RE: Even 2000mg of calcium citrate isn't enough, apparently

It was almost across the board back about 1998 to give women Boniva or Fostamax after menopause if their dexa scan showed bone loss.  I took it for about four or five years and never got sick from it or had any side effects.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/5/14 10:45 am
Topic: RE: Even 2000mg of calcium citrate isn't enough, apparently

 

When I was in my early 50's a dexa scan showed some bone loss and I was prescribed Boniva.  This was at about eight years before RNY.  I took it once a month for about four years and never showed any more loss after taking it.  Is that still something that doctors do?

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/4/14 10:16 pm, edited 12/4/14 10:17 pm
Topic: RE: Frustrated.........

I am an old lady and have had many surgeries.  Some people believe that they just get over surgery and feel normal again quickly.  The truth is that the body takes a long time to get back to how you felt before surgery.  Reality is that it takes a year before everything is back to normal physically and emotionally.

There will be a morning when you wake up and everything will feel better than it did before your operation.  It will feel like that first beautiful spring day after a cold, bitter winter.  You will feel light, strong and hopeful.  What you are suffering through now will just be like a faint remembrance of a bad dream.

Do the best you can now.  Normal is not just around the corner.  This is as Shakespeare wrote, "the winter of your discontent".  There is a glorious spring and summer waiting for you when these dark days are past.  Think of yourself as a butterfly waiting to emerge in all of your beautiful and slender glory.

Definitely get dressed, do your hair and makeup.  Clean your house and car.  Get out and walk.  Visit with others.  Keep your mind off of yourself and have other interests than what you are eating and how tired you are.  If you are not working now, think about getting a job.  Plan what you are going to eat so it is just a minor part of your day.

A great exercise is going to the mall and walking past store windows and dreaming about the beautiful clothes you will now be able to fit into.  Go to bed early and avoid napping.  Try to stay too busy for that.  Life is going to get better every day for you.  This only gets better.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 12/2/14 5:37 pm
Topic: RE: Vomiting starting solids

Sounds like a stricture to me.   Get it checked out.  It is an easy fix.  Just means scar tissue has closed up an opening and the surgeon will open it back up.  Don't attempt any more solids and be very careful with sipping water until this is fixed.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 11/30/14 1:34 pm
Topic: RE: Weight gain ... ugh

It is what is supposed to happen.  You do not live the rest of your life on a tiny amount of food and the malabsorption of calories with RNY usually lasts about 18 months.  This is how the body recovers from the effects of being starved by the surgery.  It is smart enough to know how to overcome that. 

With the DS operation there is permanent malabsorption  of calories and vitamins.  With RNY we absorb calories again but do not absorb vitamins the same.  That is why we need supplements for life.

Don't be terrified by this.  Just understand what it is all about.  It is good to prepare by trying to lose 10, 20 or even 30 pounds under your goal weight during your honeymoon period.  I enjoyed the year or so of being too skinny and was ten pounds under goal when my Bounceback regain happened. 

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 11/30/14 1:16 pm
Topic: RE: Caloric intake post 2+ years

A good rule is to multiply your goal weight by 10.  Example to stay at 120 pounds then eat 1200 calories a day.  For most of us, malabsorption goes down by 30 months and Bounceback regain of about 20 pounds happens. 

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 11/30/14 12:01 pm, edited 11/30/14 12:02 pm
Topic: RE: Weight gain ... ugh

While everyone is different, it is very normal to have a weight gain of about 20 pounds at 30 months out.  It happens to many people and has little to do with exercise.  What happens is that the pouch gets larger and more food can be eaten at a time.  We tolerate most foods well and can eat a lot of some foods. 

Also the intestines regrow little hair like appendages that grab the food and hold it against the intestines so that more calories can be absorbed.  This is the end of the honeymoon stage of RNY.  My Bounceback regain started at 30 months and I gained fourteen pounds in three months.  I went to Weigh****chers, talked to my nutritionist and surgeon, exercised more and finally bought bigger clothes.

What helps me now is to weigh daily and be aware of every pound.   To lose some of the weight, I went on a 900 calorie diet and that takes off one pound a week.  Sometimes I go to 1250 and lose 1/2 pound a week.  If I relax on my calories, the scale can start going up.  That is why I cannot skip weighing.  I consider RNY to have the quick weight loss period, the year or so of effortless maintaining, then the Bounceback regain period and finally true maintenance.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

White Dove
on 11/28/14 11:48 pm
Topic: RE: hot chocolate fail

I use a scoop of Lean Dessert chocolate powder.  I mix it with about three ounces of cold water until very smooth then slowly mix in the ho****er.  If I were using unflavored I would use Beneprotein from Walgreens.  But the trick is not putting ho****er on the dry protein powder.  It must be mixed first with cold water or it will turn into lumps.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

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