Is it ok for me to say...

When people post that they are frustrated, that they aren't doing what they are supposed to do (and I am assuming that is what you are referring to, people who actually admit they are off plan or else how would you know), it is because they are looking for encouragement, maybe even a little kick in the tush, to get them back in the right place.  I doubt they are truly wondering why they aren't losing.  Maybe they just need to get it out on the table.  Maybe they need to kick it around in their own mind for a bit, and posting helps them do that.

Give me a break, I knew for YEARS what I should be doing, and could not make myself actually do it.  And I beat myself up over it.  I dare say that is probably true of almost all of us.

I would suggest you ask yourself why it bothers you so much what other people are doing or are not doing.  Maybe you see some of yourself or your own past behavior reflected in others, and it is scary to think someone could have a VSG and still go back to their old patterns?

I posted it earlier, it bothers me because just to have surgery and get approval has been a struggle. I know I can't keep the weight off by myself that's why I need to have surgery.

I'm bothered because for sooo long I have wanted this surgery, this CHANCE this FIGHTING CHANCE to really loose the weight to really keep it off and to really be healthy.

So I'm bothered when someone was given that chance and then doesn't take advantage, As I stated this wasn't meant for anyone in particular on this forum. I sit next to guy at work who had WLS and I hear him complain about not losing enough and his regrets and I also watch him eat Taco Bell for lunch almost every day and drink fruit juices and soda all day long and it kills me that I have lived my life over weight for sooo long wishing I would even have a chance to have a surgery to help me becuase I know I really need it when people like him throw their chances away.

But you can't really understand the struggle until you have the surgery because before surgery it's impossible to believe it could be any easier.  Sure you eat less, but your love of crap does not fly out the window and even if you put it aside for 6 months a year, what then, then you feel safe to venture a little with this and that.  Being an excellent gatekeeper is not what the obese or formally obese are known for.  Although it seems hugem thing is, its just a little cutting.  You can still eat a cup of ice cream if you so choose and we all did choose to over and over again and that desire is not cut out with the stomach.  People post that because they are in trouble and they want to be somewhat accountable for bad behavior, opportunity to do the right thing, is there from the get go, it might be easier after surgery, but not necessarily a breeze, it's still the same crappy decision from your crappy brain that has made bad choices for decades.  Once the shiny newness wears off the real work begins.  It 'ain't a walk in the park but it is easier to take that walk than before.  Like Mission Impossible 'Your mission if you choose to accept it...."every hour of every day.

I deleted my first response b/c I hadn't read this yet.  I started out at a hair under 550.  I work with a woman who had RNY probably 3 years ago, she was oh 50lbs overweight if that.  Just enough to qualify.  She has proceeded to gain it all back, she drinks 3 or 4 soda's a day and eats crap like pizza daily.  She and many others are the reason my insurance required me to jump through so many hoops.  All these ex-cheerleaders who are upset they are a size 14 instead of a size 0 and thought WLS would be a magical weight loss pill to get them back into their highschool clothes are the reason people like you and I have desperately need this surgery have to fight.  Thank them and all the surgeons who performed them.

It SUCKS to watch her throw away this wonderful tool she had and be back to her weight pre-op.  It is also really sad.  Here was this wonderful opportunity handed to her on a silver platter and she screwed it up.  Use your co-worker as your example, of what to never end up like.  

There is a forum for BMI over 50, I find a lot of people on there understand more of these type things.  Never, and I repeat NEVER go to the lightweight forum, it will just **** you off  more!  :)  Good luck.  I understand your frustration, but you have to know that it's hard on this side of the fight too.  

Why would you say that???  The lightweights forum is a slower board and I have never seen anyone there whining.  Usually they post a lot of off topic things or successes.

For someone that has been a size 0 all their life, jumping to a size 14 can take a real toll on the body. 

I have never been small, but my extra 60 pounds is extremely hard to carry.  It kills my back and feet.  I can't sleep comfortably.  I developed mild sleep apnea already.  Even "lighweights" have struggles. 

You can just tell the posts that are going to start something... and here we are.

 Im actually getting a little irritated with the drama that is plaguing this board....it's becoming more and more like the main board by the day. 

oh gawd, that is so true.  I used to lurk over there, but i don't even bother anymore because it ****** me off.  hopefully this place won't veer too far off course and turn out like that.

Having read this forum almost daily for three years I can tell you that these thoughts have appeared before. I do think quite a few people who complain of inability to lose weight after wls at some point are maybe not being entirely honest with themselves on how much they are eating - maybe even inadvertently.   But I also think there are others whose metabolic rates are just really slow or have other conditions  which makes it extraordinarily difficult to lose.

There is really no way to know which type of person is making the complaint so all we can do is suggest the things that have worked for others of us who had trouble at some point. And believe me, everybody runs into a difficult phase at some time.

So allow everyone to vent, offer some help it you have some, give a swift kick in the a$$ if thats what someone appears to need, but remember that you might be that person having a rough time someday. We all do.   Diane