Hi Pat! Just read your email rg the HMR program and LOL! Yes! Absolutely on everything you said right down to the PA to the refeeding LOL Yup, I do think that going through the HMR program did help me some but it also tore at my self esteem following gaining back the 125 lbs and then going back on the fast again to lose another 50 lbs only to gain it back. And when I was losing that 2nd 50 lbs, the dr. at UCI actually told me about lap RNY and then proceeded to tell me how I wouldn't ever be approved for it due to my having a history of binge eating... Hmmmm... now granted, yes, I do have a history of binge eating but at that point in time, I hadn't binged for at least 2 years... But I guess because I wasn't able to stick to only 5 shakes a day and added in an HMR entree every now and then, that constituted binging? Hmmmm.... will be interesting to see if anyone from the UCI program is at the Walk From Obesity in San Diego... Are you definately going? I'd love to meet up with you at some point! Lots of hugs and WAY TO GO on your weight loss! You are doing great!!! :) Caroline