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nickola1
on 6/3/11 4:28 am - Riverview, Canada
Topic: RE: Nothing with the Capital Health Obesity Network makes sense...
 Hi Carly, 

Don't worry I won't rock any boats until after my surgery for sure!  Thanks for your concern, because I do agree with you.  

Now after reading what you have said, I really would love for you to continue voicing your opinion on this forum.  Even further, I would suggest that you are a necessity and asset to this group.  Move past that comment and stay with us.  We need you here!  

My two cents, 

Chris :)

 
coreena691
on 6/3/11 12:50 am - Beaver Bank, Canada
Topic: RE: Nothing with the Capital Health Obesity Network makes sense...
I'm glad you understand my side of the situation.  I'm trying to bring awarness to this current problem for so many people who have already had surgery over the past 30 years!  We need to be treated as equal, not condemmed because we had our surgery by another doctor/time (It's still the QEII-Capital Health)!!!  If Dr. Ellesmere transfers, will the same thing happen to you?  Something to be concerned about I'd say! 

If they at any time had performed said surgery at a clinic or hospital, they should be liable to continue further treatment if/when necessary. 
Not just close the doors on us-which they have right now!  That is WRONG!  Therefore, I cannot and will NOT support how the Obesity Network is operating!!!

Diane (nutritionist) said I am a conflict of interest, but woudn't say how-(she remained silent after I asked).  I have the GASTRIC SLEEVE....HOW AM I A CONFLICT??  Half of our Owlss Members are their patients....HOW ARE THEY/YOU A CONFLICT OF INTEREST??  It was acceptable when someone else ran a support group last year, because she was their patient!!  I've done the same thing but all on my own and it's a hell of a lot more organized!  There are just way too many questions about that Network's guidelines.
    ...Sorry, but that's how I see it.
VBG June 1991 - Revision to VSG May 12, 2011
 
   
              
nannydeb
on 6/2/11 10:41 pm - Canada
Topic: RE: Nothing with the Capital Health Obesity Network makes sense...
Coreena, I understand that fear completely.  I went down to emerg on Mother's Day and nobody I dealt with, nurses & doctor knew anything about VSG surgery.  Went home and thought OMG I hope nothing serious happens.  So I do understand.
I truly hope that everyone who wants this surgery is able to get it.

Carly, I only mentioned the volunteering because they realize they need some extra hands just the same as we do, but it was never for recognition or praise.  I wish you luck and hope you get your surgery, I truly do.  Good luck.
coreena691
on 6/2/11 9:34 pm - Beaver Bank, Canada
Topic: RE: claiming mexico surgery on income tax
Haven't heard anything other than they suggested to call Revenue Canada to ask.
~Sorry I couldn't be of more help.  Best of Luck!
VBG June 1991 - Revision to VSG May 12, 2011
 
   
              
nsblue
on 6/2/11 7:42 pm - Brookfield. NS, Canada
Topic: RE: Nothing with the Capital Health Obesity Network makes sense...

Carley I appologize if you think i was labeling you as those things.... i had said "I realize too that we as the "referrals in waiting" CAN be hot tempered , exasperated and impatient in waiting" i never said YOU alone nor that YOU WERE ....I was talking in general in the fact that people can feel this way in waiting to hear from them.....i realize the way i had typed it may have not read that way for you.

My referral was misplaced...not only with ellsmere's office but also with dr Klassins....was i exaperated? yes..i had given up on them until i ended up back in hospital again years later and had to send a second referrral to dr ellsmere....and when i contacted them 2 months later...once again...cant find it...and was given quite the response from them to find another doctor or hospital but like you did remain calm with them...but it didnt change how i felt in no way.

                         

 

        
Carly ~
on 6/2/11 2:17 pm
Topic: RE: Nothing with the Capital Health Obesity Network makes sense...
 Deb -- if you look at the context of how the private country club was mentioned, it was in reference to the Clinic refusing any aftercare for a patient that was previously operated on by a former Halifax doctor at their hospital.
It certainly wasn't a dig at patients who have waited their turn.  As I said before, I celebrate anyone who has already been a patient and are beginning their new journey.  
Best of luck with yours!
Carly ~
on 6/2/11 2:09 pm, edited 6/2/11 2:09 pm
Topic: RE: Nothing with the Capital Health Obesity Network makes sense...
  NS Blue -- This is Obesity Help -- A place to come and feel safe and vent your frustrations, voice your concerns, get help from your peers.

The QE2 Obesity Network Team are the people who hold the opportunity for me to begin my new, healthier life in their hands.  I've handled them with kid gloves for 13 yrs.  I've called when I could soften my voice, remain calm, and have resorted to practically begging them to take notice of me.  

The method of how people are chosen is 100% the choice of the staff at Obesity Network.  The number of surgeries is not their choice, however the people they operate on is.

When frustration and desperation sits in, I felt that this was a warm, safe place to fall.   I've never judged one single soul on here in my time, and take offense to how you described me without even knowing me or my story based on how you read a post in a forum.  I knew this message may not be well-received, but I didn't think my character and personality would be attacked.
Walk a day in my shoes NSBlue...  before you pass judgment on me and presume things about my situation or how I've dealt with the staff at the Obesity Network.

It's rather presumptuous of you to think any dealings that I've had with the Obesity Network have been hot-tempered, exasperated, complaining, ignorant and impatient.  So I take offense to that. My message on this forum was not attacking any one person or any patient, but the Obesity Network as it's own entity.  Too bad you didn't do the same.

This will be my last open post voicing my concerns with how surgeries are scheduled with the Obesity Network.  People who have not had similar experiences do not understand, and are willing to put blinders on and keep thinking everything is wonderful and the Obesity Network is doing all it can do.

Coreena, or anyone else, feel free to message me privately on Facebook or on here, and I'll contribute to the noise making for the  people that actually show compassion and empathize or live with similar neglect.

Chris -- you're adorable!  I'd honestly hate for you to be a boat-rocker when you're so close to having your surgery.  Stay quiet on the sidelines until you get what you want, would be my advice = )   
FancyRoses
on 6/2/11 11:25 am - Lower Sackville, Canada
Topic: RE: Nothing with the Capital Health Obesity Network makes sense...
sigh me up I will be there with bells on.  I am frigging frustrated as hell , I have sent a letter to my MLA and to to the chronicle herald and never got any reply.  They still cant find my referral  as of yet .
My goals to a healthy me            
honeybee123
on 6/2/11 9:06 am - Pictou County, Canada
Adjustable Gastric Band on 06/23/11
Topic: RE: Nothing with the Capital Health Obesity Network makes sense...
The way I see it, the only way that we can make a difference is by being vocal, and getting as many people that have similar experiences to speak out as well.  This is hard, as WLS is a very private thing for many people, and unlike ANY other surgery, is subjected to unwarranted advice and judgement from the people who claim to "know" you best.  So, I believe the best way to approach this is through a business model.  Does anybody know how much it costs a taxpayer for one bariatric surgery?  Or how to find that information out?  I have asked the Health department for it, and haven't gotten anywhere.  I am assuming the restriction on surgery and OR time is a cost cutting measure.  Therefore, I would propose that the government should look at the costs associated with chronic diseases, that are associated with obesity and do THAT math.  Its more cost effective for them to pay for bariatric surgery than to treat the co morbidities.  The other issue is there are VERY few surgeons that do these procedures in the area, mainly due to NOT getting any OR time.  SO, that is why private clinics are cleaning up.  My opinion on the ON is that they are overwhelmed, underfunded, and muddling through with little or no guidelines, thus the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and maybe the decisions are made on the SENSE of urgency, rather than the urgency itself.  That's wrong.  I am up for any kind of meeting, if you want to discuss strategy, or to try to organize some kind of formal complaint system.  I think it's time that the provincial government who have made it a priority to address the growing obesity issue take some responsibility for assisting those who are already obese.  It seems all the programs are focussed on awareness and prevention, rather than treatment.  I have no issues with talking to people about this problem, I know I am obese, I also know it's not due to a glandular problem, or PCOS, or thyroid,but my lifestyle.  I am willing to put it out there for scrutiny, so they can match it to other lifestyle conditions, such as heart disease from unhealthy habits, lung disease from smoking, to name a couple.  I don't expect special treatment, nor do I expect more than anyone else from my health care system, but I do think it's criminal to be ignored, shunted off and forgotten, because your condition is not deemed as 'important' as somebody else's, simply due to lack of understanding of the issue.  Ok, rant over, lol....
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Shannon
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nsblue
on 6/2/11 8:57 am, edited 6/2/11 9:01 am - Brookfield. NS, Canada
Topic: RE: Nothing with the Capital Health Obesity Network makes sense...
sorry i hadnt seen your posts when i was typing and had hit send....yes i will join...i will do whatever i can

                         

 

        
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