So I know most of those on this site are pro-protein, and most doctors are as well. In fact our whole country has this high protein diet blinders on. I know I will probably get flamed for this, get told I don't know the research, or have a bunch of people give there personal accounts of how high protein has worked for them. That is all great, good for you, yay, I am super proud of all of you and congrats on your success. I personally have not found success that way. Sure I lost weight with high protein, but I felt horrible, when I switched back to a Vegan diet, high fiber, high complex-carb, high fruit diet I lost weight faster, and I feel better, more importantly it is easy to stick too. I feel satisfied.

I just wanted to share this research that shows that a diet of high protein and low fiber is highly correlated with consistently higher BMI rates.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12833118

So for those of you the high protein isn't working for and maybe are afraid to say something for fear people will tell you your wrong or not doing it right, this is for you. For those that maybe are having cravings but can't figure out why this is for you, complex carbs and fruit might be your answer.

Dr. Garth Davis is a bariatric surgeon who prescribes a whole foods plant based diet. if things aren't working for you maybe it's worth checking out.

https://www.facebook.com/drgarth?hc_location=stream

Again this isn't for those who hare having success, or who like what they are doing. This is just another point of view to add to the collective resource this place should be.

Thanks.

I think whatever works for you is the best choice to lose, maintain and be happy.  

I wish vegan or vegetarian worked for me...  I know I would prefer that. But my body is wired differently. 

I am one of those people who in 6 months gained 30 lbs on all vegan, low starches diet.  And I felt like I was starving all the time.  

Now - after RNY - my body is very sensitive to any carbs.  Even fruits may cause for me to get severe RH.. so I force my body to use proteins ...  That do not stimulate my insulin (my fasting insulin is low, but reactive insulin is 2x of a normal person..) 

I am glad you find something that is working for you.  

(BTW - even now - when choosing proteins - I learn to incorporate proteins made from "plant kingdom" like hemp, rice, pea, etc.  

 

 

Although I totally disagree with your approach, I don't for a second disagree with your success.  :)  If it's working for you, keep working it. 

I don't follow the typical high protein diet. I agree that each person needs to do what works for them.
I drink a 30 gram premier protein shake for breakfast have 2-3 Iced tea diluted protein drinks during the day (15 grams each) i eat snacks 4-6 times daily. Snacks for me can be anything. Popcorn. fruit. Salad. Veggies & ranch. Cheese & crackers. Yogurt. I rarely have a meal in the traditional sense.
If it stops working I will change. But not just because it isn't what everyone else is doing. I feel like I am on a diet (Atkins) when I do low carb. Plus it binds me up.

My internationalist recommends a 50/50 rule-50 grams protein and 50 grams carbs a day, spread out between 3 meals and 3 snacks.  I haven't had my surgery yet-scheduled for Wednesday- so I don't know for sure how it is going to work.  She also very much encourages us to get our nutrients from "real food" as she puts it and not from protein shakes/bars.  I will have to see what ends up working for me.

Whatever works!!!! Congrats on your success!

I agree with you to an extent. I am a big Atkins fan pre-surgery. When I went to my NUT after getting on track she recommended all sorts of changes to my menu whi*****luded (gasp) fruit and veggies. I committed to trying the change and have been losing even better and more consistently plus I think I am getting the nutrition I need. In the long run I can see where this could be more sustainable for me to stay on track.

If you are eating a well balanced and excellent vegan diet, you ARE getting protein - and if you're eating high soy, gluten, nuts, etc. you're getting quite a bit of protein.

 

Protein does NOT equal eating meat, so I'm confused as to what your point is.

 

Do you mean to say that you don't understand why people are getting protein from animal sources? If you said that, that would make sense. I was 100% vegan the first 2 years post-op and also 4 years before my surgery. Then I introduced eggs and chicken back into my diet and now I eat red meat, too beause my pregnant body wanted what it wanted and I gave in. While I was vegan, I easily got over 100 grams of protein (or more) a day by eating soy based veggie food, tempeh, gluten and other things.

 

Now I just eat whatever I want in small amounts and I'm still doing great.

I no longer get over 100 grams of protein a day and I don't worry about it. But if I suddenly want to drop a large amount, I will go back to high protein, low carbs, low sugar and more water and lose 30+ lbs fast.

I do hope you eat some protein based veggie foods. It is the main constituent of the muscles in your body, not to mention things like myelin, your cardiac muscles and can aid in getting your iron up and going (I'm horribly anemic and should listen to my own advice regarding the iron). I don't know how far out you are, but eliminating protein 100% isn't good for anyone and I am 100%!!! not saying you need to eat meat. Research and find a veggie based protein that will fit your vegan diet.

Please don't take my comment above the wrong way. I've helped a lot of people on this site do the vegan/vegetarian thing through the years and I feel like I have a good grasp on it.

 

I did re-read your comment and noticed you never said you didn't eat zero protein - you just don't do high protein. I get that and if it's working for you, keep it up. There is no single approach to losing and keeping weight off and you can see that just be reading posts on here :)

My comment was for you, but it was more-so for other *****ad it and question your approach, just so they understand that there are plant based (non-animal based_ proteins that are great for you, and not all of them are soy based.

I have met "Dr Garth" on several occasions, over the years, and have to admit, I was more than a little skeptical, when he first started changing his ideas of what post op "eating" should be like..or really eating for EVERYONE--WLS or not. He'll be the first to tell you, NOBODY was more skeptical than HE-HIMSELF...

He is a stellar  doctor, husband, father,athlete, runner, etc, and over really super guy. I have come in contact with hundreds of his pts-many are personal friends of mine-He was not MY surgeon, but I'd sure recommend him, as one..

While I find his ideas eye opening, and interesting, I, myself, am not ready to give up my meat..but..I probably SHOULD try it..I HAVE been feeling sluggish..MY running has slowed down-ALOT...

There is room for ideas of every type...THANK YOU for sharing this information!