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Frank_M
on 8/6/19 12:31 pm
VSG on 05/14/19 with
Topic: RE: Sleep Apnea..... Need to treat before surgery? Any one have this same situation

I've lost 42 pounds since surgery 5/14/19. Between weight loss and becoming more active I am getting more energy and things are getting easier to do. I'm able to help more around the house and take longer walks. Now I walk for about an hour nonstop. When I sleep its like turning a light switch off amd on. If I dream I don't remember. I rarely see a doctor for sleep. Once every few years.

Vanvooh
on 8/6/19 12:13 pm
Topic: RE: Sleep Apnea..... Need to treat before surgery? Any one have this same situation

what about weight loss? I am assuming you had the surgery and have lost weight. Between that and the machine, is there any improvement? I know I am frequently very tired but I have not yet had the surgery so still overweight. It would be wonderful to sleep soundly again.

Frank_M
on 8/6/19 11:19 am
VSG on 05/14/19 with
Topic: RE: Stall

I have had a couple stalls, going through one now too. I have been watching my carbs mostly. I started walking a lot more a few weeks ago. I could be building a little muscle or my body is just getting used to the new fitness routine.

If you're exercising the same way everyday, maybe you can try something different. Instead of walking ride a bike or walk on a trail through the woods. And remember to keep hydrated.

Frank_M
on 8/6/19 11:12 am
VSG on 05/14/19 with
Topic: RE: Sleep Apnea..... Need to treat before surgery? Any one have this same situation

The masks, nasal pillows, etc have come a long way over the years. So have the machines. Mine used to be very loud and bulky. If you "force" yourself to use it for a while you will get used to it. I hated it and fought it the whole way. I prefer sleeping on my side or stomach but with the cpap I can only sleep on side. I can't really tell that my sleep is better but I don't struggle for air either. I suggest you ask to try different masks just so you know which will work best for you.

Liz J.
on 8/6/19 11:10 am
DS on 11/29/16
Topic: RE: Sleep Apnea..... Need to treat before surgery? Any one have this same situation

I have sleep apnea even below goal! I also sleep on my stomach, just had to get a different pillow. I sleep so much better than I used to but I'll never be off a cpap and I'm okay with that! Jump through the hoops, it's worth it and we all had different hoops.

Liz

HW: 398.8 SW:356 GW: 175 CW:147

Grim_Traveller
on 8/6/19 10:56 am
RNY on 08/21/12
Topic: RE: Question

It's easy for contrarians with an axe to grind to say NSAIDS are ok after VSG. And it's easy for doctors, especially those who aren't familiar with VSGs on a daily basis, to say NSAIDS are alright. Some folks get away with it, sure. Maybe even most. But it's a risk not worth taking. The worst happens far too often.

Most of us worry a lot about complications during surgery, or after. But too many are far too complacent long term. I've seen bad things happen too often with NSAIDS. And I've seen too much crappy advice, even from doctors. The risk is not worth it. Not remotely.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

MotivatedToFit
on 8/6/19 10:48 am, edited 8/6/19 12:39 pm
Topic: Stall

I feel I have hit a weight loss plateau. I hit onederland about a week ago. I weighed in at 199 lbs I am currently 194 and it seems my weight is bouncing back and forth between 194 and 193.6 lbs. I trust the process but it does get frustrating at times as I am eating healthy, exercising, and following my surgeon?s instructions. I am 74 lbs away from my goal and I just want to get there so badly. I did not have the dreaded three week stall but I am almost three months post op and seemed to have hit a wall. Any advice on what to do to break this stall?

ScaleSkater
on 8/6/19 10:24 am
Topic: RE: Sleep Apnea..... Need to treat before surgery? Any one have this same situation

I have sleep apnea, even at goal. Surgeon will not treat you untreated - PERIOD. And if they do, find another surgeon. This is serious business. Why are you guessing what will work. Do the sleep study, you'll be surprised how great life can be if it works. Read a little about the condition and the impacts on the body. You won't sleep without it afterwards. Let's put it this way - With Sleep Apnea, my skin surgeon would not have done the surgery unless I agreed to spend the night in the hospital so I could be monitored. I told him I was near borderline, so I didn't want to do it. He told me to find another surgeon, unless I agreed to stay. That's how serious a good doctor is about this stuff.

HW 510 / SW 424/ GW 175 (stretch goal to get 10 under) / CW 160 (I'm near the charts ideal weight - wonder if I can stay here)

RNY November 2016

PS: L/R arm skin removal; belt panniculectomy - April, 2019

TheWombat
on 8/6/19 10:20 am
VSG on 06/11/18
Topic: RE: Sleep Apnea..... Need to treat before surgery? Any one have this same situation

You may not even have sleep apnea, or if you do it may not be severe enough to need a mask. The sleep study will determine that. If it turns out that you do need a mask, I'm sure you will find that the improved quality of sleep you get is worth the annoyance of the mask! And it may be that you can do without the mask after you've lost a fair bit of weight -- that depends on the construction of your nasal passages.

Sleeping on your stomach should not be a problem -- assuming you don't sleep on your face. ;) There is a wide variety of masks available, and you should be able to find one that is comfortable to sleep in. Everything from little tiny things that fit in your nostrils, to masks that just cover your nose, to masks that cover both your mouth and nose.

I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a few years before WLS. Losing weight did make a big change, but the sleep apnea isn't entirely gone, unfortunately. What used to happen to me is that my throat would close up; that no longer happens. However I have a tiny nose, and my nostrils collapse easily. So I still use my machine.

califsleevin
on 8/6/19 10:05 am - CA
Topic: RE: GERD, VSG and RNY

What do your endoscopy(s) show, and that possibly along with and upper GI imaging, will lead towards the answer. Yes, an RNY revision is often done to correct intransigent GERD, though it isn't the only solution - that depends on the specific cause and the skill and knowledge of the surgeon. Some docs will diagnose you virtually over the phone (you have a VSG, heartburn, therefore you need an RNY revision...) while others will look at your EDG and upper GI, curse under their breath - twenty years of doing RNYs and they think that they know how to do a sleeve... - then they will explain the problem and the possible solutions. It might be an RNY, or it might be a re-sleeve to correct some shaping issues, or maybe a Nissen (yes, it can be done on a VSG, though not all surgeons can to do it) or other method to correct a hiatal hernia.

When it comes to revisions, they are inherently more complex than a virgin WLS - both in cause and in solution - which puts a premium on finding the right surgeon for the job. Second and third opinions are essential. As with any profession, within the qualified ranks, there are the majority who are functionally competent practitioners who do the everyday jobs well (the 'B' students), the artists and gifted practitiioners who seem to do everything well (the 'A' students) and then those who scraped by with a 'C'. Look through the surgeons' CVs on this site or others, and they all do revisions because they have converted lapbands to VSGs or RNYs, but you need someone a cut above that, and that is the hard part. One proxy for the appropriate skill is to look for a surgeon who has been doing the duodenal switch for some time. As the DS is based upon the sleeve, they tend to have longer and deeper experience in dealing with them, and as it is a fairly complex procedure, that tends to weed out the 'C' and most of the 'B' surgeons.

As to excessive weight loss, you probably will lose a bit too much at first, as it is difficult to "only lose" 20 lb with these procedures. However, deviating from classic WLS rules and diets can help - drinking calories is a good thing when you are trying to avoid losing weight. Likewise common advice in this cir****tance is to go with a high fat, low carbohydrate diet (a la keto or paleo) as the high caloric density of the fats helps keep the calories up, and the low carb helps to avoid classic RNY problems like dumping and reactive hypoglycemia. Also, if going the RNY route, consider carefully the temptation to minimize malabsorption weight loss via shorter limb lengths, as that can promote bile reflux in exchange (always those compromises!)

1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)  

Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin   VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin

 

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