Reminder to Pre-Ops and Newbs.......
Ya know..... I don't think we even differ 5%
Everything you wrote..... I totally agree with.....
My point is that we all have/had issues that revolve around food.........you don't just "catch" Obesity by eating a bad Tic Tac one day......
Issues that range from physical, mental to medical......in any which way combination......
Coming into a room full of obese people and saying......."I have a severe weakness for Ice Cream"
Kinda "Preaching to the choir".......... It's like...... "Oh really" never heard of that one...... no wonder they are having problems.......
I love Ice Cream more than I do Broccoli.........I would sit down with a half gallon and watch a movie......I would wake up in the middle of the night, go to the kitchen get a spoon/fork and Ice Cream/Pie/Cake/lasagna/fried chicken (pick one or three)..... wake up in the morning and see the reminence..... than vaguely remember doing the damage........ What level of issues do I have/had????..... I actually caught myself recently a few times waking up in the middle of the night and looking for something to eat in the fridge..... than coming out of a fog and saying..... WTF am I doing.........you idiot....
Most all of us come from an abusive relationship with food...... when someone writes a posts about "Needing to Eat something salty, crunchy, carby"........ I'm like.....who wouldn't (ya, I know some would rather go for the cookies).......I remember thinking "people really just eat those little bags of Doritos????? why do they even make those????They should be like free samples"
Were all in the same boat.....in one way or many....food junkies trying to fix it.....
Oh..... I have a post coming up that touches on your points.... might look like a rerun.......
frisco
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I don't know if I completely agree...i agree we all have issues - to some degree or another - i do think this is harder for some people than others.....not that I think this is easy for anyone. But I'd sure invite anyone to live with my brain for a day....
The only thing that bothers me is using any of the above as an excuse...regardless of the issue, there is a solution, and some people want to simply justify their lack of progress with XZY issue.
The only thing that bothers me is using any of the above as an excuse...regardless of the issue, there is a solution, and some people want to simply justify their lack of progress with XZY issue.
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~~~~Alison~~~~~
I agree with you that people shouldn't act as though they've had it harder, or worse than others. Obviously we're all in this together. Essentially, we've all eaten ourselves into oblivion at some point in our lives and ended up here, all working our butts off, literally.
Anyway, the only thing I wanted to say is that I think one of the reasons people do this, is because it's really hard to wrap their brain around the fact that there are people here that actually GET them. So many of us have had those moments of binging and eating in an abusive way, and know just how lonely and depressing those moments are, and it's sometimes hard to even imagine that there is someone else out there who actually understands what that is like. So I'm sure that can sometimes look like "No, but you don't get it, it's REALLY hard for me." Maybe, that doesn't make it okay, but it's something I can understand.
I am very early out, only about 3 weeks, and already I'm learning so much. It's interesting how I feel those feelings of "I want to eat a cookie" or whatever the thing is, and it feels GOOD to know that you and so many others on this board have fought that battle too, and won it, and it gives me strength to move past that and stick to my plan.
Anyway, the only thing I wanted to say is that I think one of the reasons people do this, is because it's really hard to wrap their brain around the fact that there are people here that actually GET them. So many of us have had those moments of binging and eating in an abusive way, and know just how lonely and depressing those moments are, and it's sometimes hard to even imagine that there is someone else out there who actually understands what that is like. So I'm sure that can sometimes look like "No, but you don't get it, it's REALLY hard for me." Maybe, that doesn't make it okay, but it's something I can understand.
I am very early out, only about 3 weeks, and already I'm learning so much. It's interesting how I feel those feelings of "I want to eat a cookie" or whatever the thing is, and it feels GOOD to know that you and so many others on this board have fought that battle too, and won it, and it gives me strength to move past that and stick to my plan.
I AM special, but my food issues are a dime a dozen and pretty standard. I probably said each and every one of those things you posted at least once in my life, but no more, I control food it does not control me and THAT is what I would love people to take away from the posts I write. Your food issues are not a thing that defines you unless you let them.
Courtney - Lap band to VSG revision
You know, we're not all the same.
I can't relate to 80% of the stories relating to food and the hold it has over some lives that i read on here. Do i think because i can't relate they are lying, or living in denial, or i am? No. I struggled with weight 50lbs, maybe more, lost it through diet and exercise, kept if off for 12 years, had a catastrophe watched it creep back up, thought "I'll get the band, it's minor surgery and as i get older i will just not have to work so hard on the weight thing" because i sure liked being small, much better than struggling to fit into size 12.
Got the band,lost the weight, the band went south. Then i was faced with "do i diet every day and go to the gym 2 hours a day to keep my weight where i want it, or is that unreasonable, since I'm not 25 anymore and i just don't want to struggle with this every day for the rest of my life". So the only other recourse i had was to have this huge surgery which i never would have had. I've lost weight slower on this surgery than on any diet I've ever been on.
Does any of this make me special? No, but it makes me different than a lot of the herd. Am i carb addicted? No, i never ate processed food. Did i choose the salad instead of the french fries? /Not often enough. Did i overeat? Clearly. However my metabolism is so screwed that eating 600-800 cals doesn't allow me to lose weight. Again, not saying special. Different, most definitely.
What does it matter? Over weight is overweight but there is a difference, especially when one is being told there is one path and if followed it is the holy grail. It's not.
I've seen lots of people break with the herd here and found a way forward that worked for them. All any of us actually own, is what worked for us. And for those who lost on the 600-800, who say it works for most people. It does but how could it not. Except when it does not. And the idea that this is the only path is somewhat destructive.
Everyone's individual success is just that. Individual. It's not the holy grail except for them. And that is fantastic for them and they should shout it from the rooftops but not so it drowns out another story they don't feel has merit because it differs from theirs. And no one should have to wonder if the telling of their story is being viewed as a Big sell job.
We all have our stories. And the truth is if someone comes on here and says "I've never been able to stick to a diet what will make this different? Because if i have to rely on me i will again fail" Nine out of ten people will respond. "Oh it's different, you have restriction, you won't have hunger and it will be easier to make informed choices" I will tell you i would respond "It won't be any different."
This is the hardest diet and it is a diet i have ever been on. Every day it's a decision for every meal and every day i make choices to eat in a way that will not impact my weight negatively. That's me. Restriction? Sure i have it, but I'm sure 2 ounces of chocolate every two hours, would make that a non issue. Hunger? I have hunger, I'm not one of those who lost it. I could eat every two hours and have to willfully distract myself not to. That is also me.
So yeah, i do think that someone coming on here and questioning whether this is the right path for them is more than reasonable. I also think it's valid to think that you're special or an anomaly until you find out your not (or maybe you are).
What i do know is that this forum should be able to withstand all the questions and the fears and the anxieties, with courtesy and in safety. There are a ton of uninformed people who come on here as the first place before they stick their toe in the water. It should be safe and they shouldn't feel stupid even if they are asking stuff that's been asked a thousand times before.
I absolutely respect those who have lost their weight and stick around to guide others. I don't know how you do it because that energy wanes at least for me, i hardly ever respond to posts anymore but i don't believe anyone has the answer. They have the answer of what worked for them and when you , newbie, lose your weight, you will have the answer of what worked for you but somewhere in there, there has to be room for differing, sometimes opposing narratives.
I can't relate to 80% of the stories relating to food and the hold it has over some lives that i read on here. Do i think because i can't relate they are lying, or living in denial, or i am? No. I struggled with weight 50lbs, maybe more, lost it through diet and exercise, kept if off for 12 years, had a catastrophe watched it creep back up, thought "I'll get the band, it's minor surgery and as i get older i will just not have to work so hard on the weight thing" because i sure liked being small, much better than struggling to fit into size 12.
Got the band,lost the weight, the band went south. Then i was faced with "do i diet every day and go to the gym 2 hours a day to keep my weight where i want it, or is that unreasonable, since I'm not 25 anymore and i just don't want to struggle with this every day for the rest of my life". So the only other recourse i had was to have this huge surgery which i never would have had. I've lost weight slower on this surgery than on any diet I've ever been on.
Does any of this make me special? No, but it makes me different than a lot of the herd. Am i carb addicted? No, i never ate processed food. Did i choose the salad instead of the french fries? /Not often enough. Did i overeat? Clearly. However my metabolism is so screwed that eating 600-800 cals doesn't allow me to lose weight. Again, not saying special. Different, most definitely.
What does it matter? Over weight is overweight but there is a difference, especially when one is being told there is one path and if followed it is the holy grail. It's not.
I've seen lots of people break with the herd here and found a way forward that worked for them. All any of us actually own, is what worked for us. And for those who lost on the 600-800, who say it works for most people. It does but how could it not. Except when it does not. And the idea that this is the only path is somewhat destructive.
Everyone's individual success is just that. Individual. It's not the holy grail except for them. And that is fantastic for them and they should shout it from the rooftops but not so it drowns out another story they don't feel has merit because it differs from theirs. And no one should have to wonder if the telling of their story is being viewed as a Big sell job.
We all have our stories. And the truth is if someone comes on here and says "I've never been able to stick to a diet what will make this different? Because if i have to rely on me i will again fail" Nine out of ten people will respond. "Oh it's different, you have restriction, you won't have hunger and it will be easier to make informed choices" I will tell you i would respond "It won't be any different."
This is the hardest diet and it is a diet i have ever been on. Every day it's a decision for every meal and every day i make choices to eat in a way that will not impact my weight negatively. That's me. Restriction? Sure i have it, but I'm sure 2 ounces of chocolate every two hours, would make that a non issue. Hunger? I have hunger, I'm not one of those who lost it. I could eat every two hours and have to willfully distract myself not to. That is also me.
So yeah, i do think that someone coming on here and questioning whether this is the right path for them is more than reasonable. I also think it's valid to think that you're special or an anomaly until you find out your not (or maybe you are).
What i do know is that this forum should be able to withstand all the questions and the fears and the anxieties, with courtesy and in safety. There are a ton of uninformed people who come on here as the first place before they stick their toe in the water. It should be safe and they shouldn't feel stupid even if they are asking stuff that's been asked a thousand times before.
I absolutely respect those who have lost their weight and stick around to guide others. I don't know how you do it because that energy wanes at least for me, i hardly ever respond to posts anymore but i don't believe anyone has the answer. They have the answer of what worked for them and when you , newbie, lose your weight, you will have the answer of what worked for you but somewhere in there, there has to be room for differing, sometimes opposing narratives.
Just when I think there is nothing more to say on this stuff you come up with more good thoughts. nice post.
and very timely. i am having some regain and was getting into the "something is wrong with me" mode. now i know what it is. thanks for making an important point. diane
and very timely. i am having some regain and was getting into the "something is wrong with me" mode. now i know what it is. thanks for making an important point. diane
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