Be very careful when trying to borderline dispense medical and mental health advice, we all vary.

I was put on a host of psychotropics at the height of my complications from my gastric bypass, I gained 80 lbs and there is no way in hades, that I ate myself to that weight, threw up dozens of times a day and still had reactive hypoglycemia and severe hypotension, like scary low blood pressure and literally no registerable levels of ferritin, the bs and no matter how faithful I was in taking my vitamins, I couldn't absorb them to save my live, so my psychiatrist at the time when I had a nervous breakdown in 2007 put me on a ton of psych meds, and in 2008 when I tried to commit suicide because I couldn't take care of myself, let alone my kids, I lost the will to live.

I had a documented history even prior to rny of potency and longevity of meds in all therapy classes including 4 epidurals almost 30 1/2 years ago when in labor with my son and the meds in them NEVER worked.

I still have issues now 21 years post rny, 12 1/2 years post reversal of potency and longevity issues with meds, even though I can get the side effects of them, I'm hard to anethesize as well.

IF a psychiatrist deems a medication is worth a shot in a patient, especially patients who have severe depression issues, weight gain won't be an issue, if the patient loses the will to live and their depression becomes fatal to them.

I learned the hardest way possible that being fat, even fat after nearly dying from gastric bypass complications was not the worst thing to happen to me, the hardest way possible.

My 20 year post rny sister who wasn't nearly as compliant, can travel, climb mountains, eat a whole chipolte, 4 slices of dominos and all she had to do was pick up intense exercise about 12 years ago at 8 years post op to keep her weight off, and she only had to be compliant for one year to lose it.

So if I'm not enough of a bariatric unicorn, so is she, so is my 350 77 year old father who can drive and ride motorcycles, I can't do any of that stuff or work any longer.

I'm not anti wls, I know it saves lives and extends the quality of lives.

But sometimes psych meds and meds in other therapy classes that cause weight gain, too. Even if a patient eats next to nothing.

I have social media associations with major long term gramma grads like me who found having rny be the best thing to ever happen to them and are still compliant to the letter and have never strayed, but she would never food or fat shame another bariatric patient.

I'm not on those meds anymore they didn't help and I've been off of them for a long time, I have hypothyroidism too and not surprisingly am allergic to Synthroid.

So I take the weight cycling, do I recommend it? No. But you aren't walking in my or any other person's shoes. There's days I can eat but rarely like a normal person, other days, more frequently than one would think, it hurts to eat at all.

People need to be careful how they phrase things on here, it's one thing to speak for yourself on what you choose, but it's not even me that I'm mad at certain directions this conversation took, which was originally about CBD oil, it's the fact as a gramma grad rny and gramm grad rny reversal peep, I do have to try and help talk into patients who need a reversal to save their lives and fear getting fat again and think they would rather be dead.

On the flip side I get patients who want a reversal because they miss eating so much they are suicidal, too and I have to gently explain reversals aren't done for that reason and there is no guarantee that they could eat normally again, that most patients who end up feeling like that, do end up losing their surgery regret when they can do so many new things that they couldn't do without the weight loss.

So no one needs to defend weight loss surgery to me, I'm not anti weight loss surgery, at all, even though in my case I wouldn't do it again.

But in cases when patients come up on here and bring up meds and people say their experience with psych meds was different on meds notorious for weight gain but they didn't gain weight, please don't come off with a moral superiority complex.

No one isn't saying you can't be proud of your weight loss but you are playing with fire with other people's psyche's who are vulnerable and again, could benefit from certain meds even if they gain weight which they may not be able to control and that's not because they're less compliant than a patient who doesn't gain weight.

It helps no one but one's ego when they pull stuff like that.

I'm not usually this harsh on here, but again, it's a life or death situation for someone who may read those comments that can make them feel like they shouldn't take meds because of the potential of weight gain but REALLY need them.

Just saying be careful how you phrase things on here...

Peace...

Welcome back!

I don't have advice but I've read a ton of stuff here relating to regain and resets (and whether they work or not). Most of the stories I've seen do tend toward a back to the basics approach of eating dense protein first, and slowly, until your hunger cues kick in. And cutting out carbs.

White Dove also has great advice and feedback. :) hope you find a process that works for you!

Congratulations on your success. It is so important to find and follow the program that works for you. Surgery does the trick for the first few years but after that it is making sure you are eating less than you are burning.

Hey there!! I was in the same boat! I had my RNY on 9.29.2011. Lost 70 lbs (original weight was 252), then lost another 10. I've fluctuated between 165-175, fighting to lost the last 30 lbs. I had gotten back up to 180 recently and was battling depression when I found a program called Optavia. My coach is an old high school/church acquaintance and let me tell you, it has changed my whole outlook. I started on 2.20.23 at 180 and am down to 168.2 as of 3.6.23 ( I weigh every Monday). I have so much energy now, and so many less aches that I've stopped some of my arthritis meds. My outlook has improved so much! I do NOT crave sugary thing now, it is just simply amazing me. I'm not one to jump into things, and I've been watching this program for over a year now, following others that are on it. This may not be for you, I'm just throwing it out there. But you CAN do this, we've done it before!!! Do NOT let depression control you-you have the power over your feelings and your life! We can't allow our surroundings or our others affect our dispositions and outlooks, no one has that power. I'm sure you have done amazing things-focus on those! Write down your thoughts, what you did when you were feeling your best! You can get back on track, I'm praying for you!!!

I had RNY in October 2007. My goal is 136 and I stayed there or lower easily for first ten years. Then started to gain a few pounds a year and one day was at 165. I joined Weigh****chers. It was during pandemic and I did all my meetings online. It took a long time as in years but I reached my goal again last summer and have kept from regaining.

My regain was 100% caused by eating too many calories. I love WW plan. I can have any food as lon as I stay in my points. I attended meetings every single day. After RNY the only way to lose is to eat less food. Exercise does not make a difference for me at all. I highly recommend their program both for the food freedom and all the education and support from their meetings. They truly know how to help you lose weight.