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I really hesitate to post this .
I may get literally kicked off the site by a very judgmental clearly ninety year old censor who?s a close relative of the retired owner and founder of ObesityHelp, Eric .
I feel there is this huge prejudice here concerning alcohol and drugs .
As a result of preaching Nancy - Reagan like ... just say no ... don?t do it lol ... we?re basically turning off and turning away every young person coming here for help .
ObesityHelp isn?t a quilting bee . It isn?t a place to talk about your grandkids or your aging issues ... it?s for EVERYONE struggling with their weight .
MOST of ( the younger I guess though I know plenty of cocaine cowboys from the seventies and eighties and nineties ) us have tried to control our weight with coke and meth and maybe prescribed Adderall and antidepressants .
I feel we can?t talk about struggles freely here from this cult - like censorship.
I subjected myself to AA and OA for thirty years ... since I was under fifteen . I don?t believe in it . It?s a cult .
Bill W died an alcoholic because he plagiarized the writings of a thirteenth century Jewish physician to the Ottoman ( Arab) emperor (Maimonides ) who actually wrote the ? twelve steps? .
This twentieth century Harvard educated alcoholic assohole just copied them .... and justified and got away with it because of virulent anti Semitism .
When he was subsequently lionized for achievements that were clearly not his own years later he got and stayed drunk lol. Typical piece of **** alcoholic .
Please stop preaching that cultish nonsense here - especially pretending there?s no reasonable alternative.
You grandmas probably don?t like this but realistic facts are all people are doing much more drugs than EVER.
It?s a realistic part of happy overweight recovery that we can post HONESTLY without idiots getting on our case ( who are probably drinking and using THEMSELVES... maybe pain pills maybe prescribed but it?s all the same .
Please stop judging and start THINKING and HELPING (((())))) hugs
You have to get with the right bariatric team first ... who KNOW from extensive experience how to present your case for approval to your insurance company.
That said - you will NEVER be happy with strictly health related results .
OBVIOUSLY you probably need an apron removal and liposuction and a navel repositioning and probably an upper and lower tightening to achieve the flat abdomen you deserve .
All of this might be far cheaper and more affordable in Mexico . There are GREAT, SAFE and awesome plastic surgeons there post op patients ( like myself ) can recommend wholeheartedly.
What you say White Dove is EXACTLY why I was terrified to get this lifesaving WLS.
I read ( here) that RNY ( and VSG ) patients have to diet for a lifetime..... not that I wasn't dieting ALREADY but why risk my life and longevity to basically get the same issues back a few years post op?
For me this nine year journey has been AMAZING.
I've attempted and succeeded at so many dreams that as a struggling-with- their weight and health person I just couldn't BEGIN to do .
i just wish I could bring the peace I feel around eating now to others ... the incredible joy of sharing healthy homemade meals with my family and friends ... the wonder of working with homegrown produce and eating in and enjoying that beautiful garden .
I think my WLS NORMALIZED me . I still have excess fat cells and aging issues .... I just had a well deserved reset . I'm SO happy I did it and SO GRATEFUL every single day :)
That was super interesting information on K2 ty !
I notice it really minimizes and heals bruising and helps control leg cramps and varicose veins ( horse chestnut extract is of course the gold standard varicose vein prevention wise )
I only took minimal occasional doses of k2 so far but I'm definitely going to try it in combination with my weekly fossamax . I'd LOVE to have ramrod- straight lifelong posture and never to shrink an inch lol :)
You say you take 12 medications a day. I assume they're not all vitamins?!! After my VSG I was advised to take a multivitamin, and they check my bloods yearly to see if I have any deficiencies. I'm 3 years out, and the multivitamin is still the only supplement I need -- and I'm vegan. I also took a PPI (these medications usually end in -zole) for the first two years.
I am not suggesting that you stop taking any of your vitamins, but you might discuss with your medical team if you really still need everything you're taking. If those 12 medications are all (or even mostly) vitamin or mineral supplements, and you don't have any malabsorption issues, that might be more than you need.
I had RNY is 2007. I have no malabsorption or restriction. I only control my weight with diet and exercise. Just like before surgery.
The DS does give lifetime fat malabsorption. The RNY gives about two years of calorie malabsorption. When the surgery is new, there is tremendous restriction. But it is similar to a new born baby. The RNY pouch or VSG/DS sleeve grows up and becomes an adult pouch or sleeve.
If I wanted to, I could eat as much as before surgery and if I did not control my eating, I would weigh as much as before surgery.
Real life begins where your comfort zone ends
I'm 18+ years from my DS and I still have significant fat malabsorption. I'm still at the same goal weight I reached 16-1/2 years ago :) Not much restriction anymore (having the sleeve with the DS) but definitely not back to pre-DS volume. I say I eat like a "normal" person volume-wise.
Janet in Leesburg
DS 2/25/03
Hazem Elariny
-175
I can eat three bites of a slice of pizza and have to put it down due to sneezing and sniffling ( my pouch?s indicators that she?s had ENOUGH lol) .
It literally takes me two hours to eat half of it and usually I throw the rest out .
I find I?m a constant food hoarder - my eyes want this and that .... I plan this great meal in my mind and aquire the ingredients and 9/10 gets left on the plate . Since my pouch can?t tolerate leftovers I throw out ( or compost ) an unconscionable amount of food - every single day 
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Yes my natural predilection/ preference is to eat very low fat or ( preferably ) fat free.
I think you?re right this might be why I still have malabsorption when I do eat ? normal ? amounts of fat .
In any case I?m grateful for my pouch?s touchy temperament. She keeps me slim, ? fighting weight ? and super healthy and ridiculously energetic .
Congratulations on 18 months. Thanks for being so open about your struggles. I know you will help many others.
I don't have that issue, either.
I know you've frequently mentioned on this site that you follow a very low-fat diet. So maybe that's why you're seeing this when you DO eat fat? As in your body's just not used to it? Not sure.
re: the weight regain during year 2 or 3 - part of it may be due to the malabsorption ending, but that only happens in bypass patients. VSG patients also experience "rebound", so part of it may also be due to bad habits creeping back in - or just eating more in general (even if we haven't reverted to bad habits).
I still have restriction, but not like I did the first few months post-op. I doubt anyone could tell at this point that I've had WLS. I eat about as much as my never-been-obese women friends who are watching their weight. For example, at restaurants I'll typically just eat an appetizer - or order an entree and take 1/2 - 2/3 of it home. Or I'll eat 1-2 pieces of pizza (that's all I can handle now at one sitting) vs the half a large pizza that I used to be able to eat prior to surgery.
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